Ghislaine Maxwell Trial (Epstein’s side piece) (25 Viewers)

i think it's a very relevant subject to this thread because when the list is finally dropped, there will be many false accusations and fake lists that will appear and people will take the fake ones as fact because there are too many idiots in this world

I don't think there's actually a "list" - and the court released something like 950 pages yesterday evening. There are flight logs with some information but it's handwritten and often uses initials. There are other records and testimony that includes names.

But if you see a list, it's because someone has attempted to pull the names from the documents to create it. And agree, that there's clearly room for shenanigans here and because people are gullible (some more than others), that stuff might take a life of its own.
 
This is true, and unfortunately people will want to believe what they want, and will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify a persons name being on there.

I’m of the opinion that anyone in those papers knew what he was, knew what was going on, and has no excuse whatsoever for this.
 
It's very simple. If, even as a comedian, you make your living out of taking personal shots at individuals then you shouldn't be shocked when one of them takes it personally and punches you in the face. Doesn't make it right to punch someone in the face. Just saying if you don't want someone to take something personally then stop mocking individuals on a personal level. No one is saying these two things are the same.
Of course, no one is going to send death threats to Aaron Rodgers because Kimmel told a joke about Rodgers' mullet.

It seems you have something against Jimmy Kimmel beyond just not finding him funny. I don't know that there is a comedian out there who has never told a joke about someone else.
 
Of course, no one is going to send death threats to Aaron Rodgers because Kimmel told a joke about Rodgers' mullet.

It seems you have something against Jimmy Kimmel beyond just not finding him funny. I don't know that there is a comedian out there who has never told a joke about someone else.
i still don't understand how anyone can say Kimmel is wrong at any % for his rebuttle to Rodgers.
 
This is true, and unfortunately people will want to believe what they want, and will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify a persons name being on there.

I’m of the opinion that anyone in those papers knew what he was, knew what was going on, and has no excuse whatsoever for this.
At best I think you might be able to argue wilful ignorance, but I can't imagine anyone actually going to that island and not be able to figure out that something was not right about it. If they decided not to say anything then that's on their conscience and now maybe they will actually have to live with the consequences of that decision.

I'm hoping that at some point Maxwell decides to come clean about who was actually involved, but I would imagine she fears the same fate as Epstien.
 
i still don't understand how anyone can say Kimmel is wrong at any % for his rebuttle to Rodgers.
'Cause Kimmel made fun of Rodgers' anti-vaxxing 'stache, it's ok for Rodgers to accuse Kimmel of being on the list of pedos.


For the record, I understand there really wasn't an actual list, and that anyone that had any sort of relation with Jeffrey wasn't necessarily involved in any illegal activity, whether they flew to his island in his jet or not.
 
At best I think you might be able to argue wilful ignorance, but I can't imagine anyone actually going to that island and not be able to figure out that something was not right about it. If they decided not to say anything then that's on their conscience and now maybe they will actually have to live with the consequences of that decision.

I'm hoping that at some point Maxwell decides to come clean about who was actually involved, but I would imagine she fears the same fate as Epstien.
thats one of the issues. you are assuming eveyone on the log went to the island, which in fact is not true. Many many people already thinnk the same thing. and it just isn't true... and we all know those who think that will take zero effort into actually taking time to know the difference.
 
At best I think you might be able to argue wilful ignorance, but I can't imagine anyone actually going to that island and not be able to figure out that something was not right about it. If they decided not to say anything then that's on their conscience and now maybe they will actually have to live with the consequences of that decision.

So, how exactly do you imagine things on the island went? Do you imagine an island brimming with teenage girls at the ready to service Jeffrey's friends and associates? Big neon signs that said "get you freak on with underage chicks"? Epstein offering a fine Scotch and Debbie?

Big money people get invited to all sorts of places: villas, islands, yachts, etc. as part of businesses, brokers, etc. seeking to secure business/contracts/etc. There is nothing inherently wrong in that. What happens when you are there, that's a different story, yet, it doesn't mean there is evidence of anything illegal happening there, or that had happened there.
 
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This is true, and unfortunately people will want to believe what they want, and will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify a persons name being on there.

I’m of the opinion that anyone in those papers knew what he was, knew what was going on, and has no excuse whatsoever for this.
And especially the frequency of some names appearing in the court documents.
 
and if you watch the video, Rodgers didn't laugh at all when he said it. he wasn't joking. That is why McAffe came on and said what he said because he knew Rodgers wasn't saying it as a joke, that it was somethig he wanted other to believe.
He did laugh (or smirk). Go watch the video again.
David Copperfield was a surprise.
yeah, nobody saw that reveal coming.
 

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