Giants' 07 draft picks vs Saints' 07 draft picks

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Picking high we need the 2008 class to be high impact like the Giants. We could do with a Justin Tuck in the worst way (he was drafted iwith the 10th pick of the 3rd round in 2005). I think with the Charles Grant incident and Giants blueprint we could end up taking 3 defensive lineman in the 7 rounds
 

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I too was struck by the constant reference to "rookie" during yesterday's game as one young Giant after another made a big play. And I was struck by New England totally revamping its wide receiver corps in the 2007 offseason--if New England had not added those receivers, the Pats would not been playing yesterday and would have had several losses in 2008.

The Giants' 2007 draft was extraordinarily productive, as was our 2006 draft. But those drafts show two things:

1. A rookie contingent can move a team forward.

2. The total lack of production from a draft class can push a team backwards.

We don't need to hit a home run every year--especially if you are drafting low in every round. But you need to at least put people on base every draft. Last year's draft was simply unacceptable.
 

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They had that draft and only picked up one higher than mid range free agent, Kawika Mitchell.
I said this in another thread, but we don't have to use up every last penny of our cap to sign Asante Samuel so he can drop the game winning pick in the superbowl.

Also, what you can add in, is that all of those Giants draft picks who made the team contributed, and that was a lot.
One Patriot's draft pick made the team, first rounder Brandon Merriweather, and he was the backup at safety.
 

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The Patriots had ZERO impact from their rookie class and they were quite good this year...
Zero is incorrect. They got some mileage out of Brandon Merriweather who played in all 16 regular season games and the superbowl. The guy made 27 tackles and defended three passes.

We drafted a first-rounder who never saw the field for a single down, we got no contribution whatsoever from Alleman, Pittman, Bushrod, and Jones. Mitchell and Young played on special teams occasionally if I remember right and Young played a few downs at nickleback after failing to beat out the worst starting corner in the leagues (or his backup).

It saddens me to say it - but THAT is zero contribution. Merriweather looks rookie of the year by comparison.

That wouldn't be so bad if the FO had learned lessons from the debacle of 2007, but no, apparently they're taking the same BPA strategy they did last year.
 

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Zero is incorrect. They got some mileage out of Brandon Merriweather who played in all 16 regular season games and the superbowl. The guy made 27 tackles and defended three passes.

We drafted a first-rounder who never saw the field for a single down, we got no contribution whatsoever from Alleman, Pittman, Bushrod, and Jones. Mitchell and Young played on special teams occasionally if I remember right and Young played a few downs at nickleback after failing to beat out the worst starting corner in the leagues (or his backup).

It saddens me to say it - but THAT is zero contribution. Merriweather looks rookie of the year by comparison.

That wouldn't be so bad if the FO had learned lessons from the debacle of 2007, but no, apparently they're taking the same BPA strategy they did last year.
No, that would pretty much be zero as the other person pointed out. How about Pierre Thomas? I'd say he did far more than Merriweather, and that's saying something. The point is, you can't judge everything after 1 season and you can't judge a draft when at the beginning of the season there were so few spots open for competition.
 

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Zero is incorrect. They got some mileage out of Brandon Merriweather who played in all 16 regular season games and the superbowl. The guy made 27 tackles and defended three passes.

We drafted a first-rounder who never saw the field for a single down, we got no contribution whatsoever from Alleman, Pittman, Bushrod, and Jones. Mitchell and Young played on special teams occasionally if I remember right and Young played a few downs at nickleback after failing to beat out the worst starting corner in the leagues (or his backup).
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I think that's a harsh analysis on Young, I think Coach Payton would rather rely on the guys that got him there last year which is why not one free agent or draft pick got a chance to start or compete (except David) I think one of the biggest problems were Payton not using all 52 players, we don't know if they were good enough or if they weren't, but what we can say is the guys that were playing were horrible so in essence I guess it would make one think that the draft picks and Free Agents must be worse cause they were never replaced by them...when me personally, I think Payton thought he had the players needed (because they made it to the NFL Championship Game in 06...but he was wrong and he realized it toward the end of the year, now he wants to get younger, so to me it says a lot of players will get a chance next year, cause some of those guys who he depended on ast year won't be here next year (Simoneau)
 

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That wouldn't be so bad if the FO had learned lessons from the debacle of 2007, but no, apparently they're taking the same BPA strategy they did last year.
Your basing this on what?
Also, it's wonderful if your rookies contribute their first year. But, it's more important that they see the field this year(their 2nd year).
Our biggest problem this year wasn't the rookies, it was the lack of impact FA's.
 

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I think that the Saints will eventually see some contributions from four of their 2007 draft picks. That isn't horrible but it would have been nice to see more from them in 2007.
 

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Your basing this on what?
Also, it's wonderful if your rookies contribute their first year. But, it's more important that they see the field this year(their 2nd year).
Our biggest problem this year wasn't the rookies, it was the lack of impact FA's.
Can't remember the exact posts, but there were a number of posters who reported that the GM had said we would use FA for impact defenders, BPA for the draft. Hope it's wrong because I'd like to see us go need for both tbh.

As for the biggest problem - let's be honest here - it was both. A selection of good rookies who were ready to play would have been a great help on defense this year.
 

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