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Favors played 65-70 games a year for the Jazz but now he's caught whatever injury plague every Pelican player gets when they suit up here.
65-70 games is considered an Iron Man season in the modern NBA? Looks like a dude with a history of missing a lot of time.

Gah! "Load management". I'll "OK Boomer" myself -- load management effs up sports.
 

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65-70 games is considered an Iron Man season in the modern NBA? Looks like a dude with a history of missing a lot of time.

Gah! "Load management". I'll "OK Boomer" myself -- load management effs up sports.
Favors played 76 and 77 games in the last 2 seasons.

AD has never played more than 75
 

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The same medical staff that's been hobbling this franchise for how long made the decision to pull Zion...k, gotcha. I just don't trust that these health professionals know what the other organizations know.
 

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This is all well and good ... but if Zion was not medically able to go 30-35 minutes, then he should just sit out longer.

The docs say you can't play a full game? Then you can't help a team yet. Playing 15 minutes a night for two months isn't worth it. Come back ready for a full night out, or else stay out longer.

I'll never understand modern pro sports load management. Zion had already sat out three months for what was initially billed a 6-8 week recovery. He has been practicing for over a month, and full-practicing for at least two weeks.

So at this point ... is there really a medically-discernible risk difference between playing 18 minutes and playing, say, 22 minutes? Really? I don't believe it. I just don't.
I play fantasy basketball and can say with complete certainty that it is absolutely normal for a player to be on restricted minutes coming back from an injury...especially if joint is involved
 

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The same medical staff that's been hobbling this franchise for how long made the decision to pull Zion...k, gotcha. I just don't trust that these health professionals know what the other organizations know.
actually we hired what is considered the top staff in the NBA away from Phoenix in the offseason. He has been sitting out extra time so that he could work on better form in running, jumping, and landing so as not to put as much stress on his knees. They are being responsible with his future and not just thinking about here and now.

IMO it is a good decision
 

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actually we hired what is considered the top staff in the NBA away from Phoenix in the offseason. He has been sitting out extra time so that he could work on better form in running, jumping, and landing so as not to put as much stress on his knees. They are being responsible with his future and not just thinking about here and now.

IMO it is a good decision
That's good. If sitting him out three months is good and prudent ... sitting him out the whole 2019-20 season should be even better and more prudent. Maybe it's better for Zion to work his way back in during the next preseason when the games don't count.

Absolutely no summer league -- too much wear & tear.
 

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That's good. If sitting him out three months is good and prudent ... sitting him out the whole 2019-20 season should be even better and more prudent. Maybe it's better for Zion to work his way back in during the next preseason when the games don't count.

Absolutely no summer league -- too much wear & tear.
why if they have already accomplished what they wanted? if his knee is good to go, and he has learned what they were trying to teach him, then sitting him means he doesn't improve his basketball skills this year or build any chemistry with his teammates

we lost that game because we played some of our worst ball in the past 3 or 4 weeks while San Antonio couldn't miss. And we still nearly won

there are good times ahead and they will happen sooner rather than later
 

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I play fantasy basketball and can say with complete certainty that it is absolutely normal for a player to be on restricted minutes coming back from an injury...especially if a joint is involved
When was Zion caught with a joint? :scratch:
 

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actually we hired what is considered the top staff in the NBA away from Phoenix in the offseason. He has been sitting out extra time so that he could work on better form in running, jumping, and landing so as not to put as much stress on his knees. They are being responsible with his future and not just thinking about here and now.

IMO it is a good decision



100% agree.

It amazes me how myopic some of y’all are being with this.. Last night was ONE GAME.. Sure, it woulda been nice to get a win.. but the old cliche has never been more true than it is here- It’s a marathon, not a sprint... As a Pels fan and (former) season ticket holder, a Zion fan and a fan of the city of New Orleans- winning the game last night, or the game tomorrow night, or even making the playoffs THIS year- none of it means a fraction as much as watching Zion play for 15 yrs, light up the NBA, win multiple titles for NOLA and becoming the legend he’s got the potential to be.

Just relax guys.
 

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That's good. If sitting him out three months is good and prudent ... sitting him out the whole 2019-20 season should be even better and more prudent. Maybe it's better for Zion to work his way back in during the next preseason when the games don't count.

Absolutely no summer league -- too much wear & tear.
Yeah. I'm of the belief, as many were saying on TV last night, if you want to be in basketball shape, you've got to play basketball.
 

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This is pretty much what we had through that stretch in the 4th quarter.
I would love to be able to blame Gentry for this, but we don't know if the way Zion was utilized was his decision. I am willing to bet that decision came from the medical staff. If I am wrong and it was Gentry, then Gentry lost the game for us IMO
 

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100% agree.

It amazes me how myopic some of y’all are being with this.. Last night was ONE GAME.. Sure, it woulda been nice to get a win.. but the old cliche has never been more true than it is here- It’s a marathon, not a sprint... As a Pels fan and (former) season ticket holder, a Zion fan and a fan of the city of New Orleans- winning the game last night, or the game tomorrow night, or even making the playoffs THIS year- none of it means a fraction as much as watching Zion play for 15 yrs, light up the NBA, win multiple titles for NOLA and becoming the legend he’s got the potential to be.

Just relax guys.
Yes, this is true. But it's hard to tell a bunch of fans who recently threw their wallets in to invest in Year One with Zion that the team is now just prepping him for the seasons to come.

I guess that's why they are not coming right out and saying it. :scratch:
No one wants to be run over in that stampede.
 

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actually we hired what is considered the top staff in the NBA away from Phoenix in the offseason. He has been sitting out extra time so that he could work on better form in running, jumping, and landing so as not to put as much stress on his knees. They are being responsible with his future and not just thinking about here and now.

IMO it is a good decision
See, and I thought I remembered hearing about that but somehow we still are hobbled with injuries. Is it the environment and nobody knows how to pre-emptively account for these injuries in Louisiana climate or is it the food. High salt content causing dehydration and weight gain(like so many good DL/OL Saints players who suffered weight gain here). Something has to be the cause of this and needs to be adjusted.

I agree with pulling Zion. He was sweating bullets and was getting winded. He's certainly not in game shape yet. But he was pulled at the most inopportune moment. I agree with so many. He should have come of the bench not started but hindsight is 20/20. If Gentry is as good as he thinks he is, maybe he'll adjust for this until chemistry develops and his conditioning is up to snuff. I would have preferred his remaining time to come at the end to close out the game rather than to start the 4th. Again, hindsight and all.

Now my biggest gripe is, the rest of the team seemed to be playing half-heartedly. Zion brought an energy with him when he was in those last few minutes. I don't see that in anybody else. Zion gave them the lead and the rest of the team should have been able to keep it closer if not taken the momentum and run with it, but with so many 4th quarter fails they lost focus and fell apart. It's disheartening but it's only one game and I can't wait for the next game to see how Gentry responds with how he plays Zion and has him play with everyone else.

FYI, I enjoyed the hell out of that 4th quarter until Zion came out. The excitement with him is palpable. If I had the money and time, I'd be going to games.
 

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Yes, this is true. But it's hard to tell a bunch of fans who recently threw their wallets in to invest in Year One with Zion that the team is now just prepping him for the seasons to come.

I guess that's why they are not coming right out and saying it. :scratch:
No one wants to be run over in that stampede.
it isn't like the Pels wanted him to get injured.

and no, that isn't what is happening. They sat him an extra month to help him learn to protect his knee and are now bringing him back to help with a playoff run. The pels are most certainly not tanking or throwing away this season. If they were, they would have already traded Favors away to a team that needed a center or a team that wants an expiring contract
 

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