Hard no on that proposed CBA.--J.J Watt (1 Viewer)

[Trey W.]

What you talking about? These kids don't go to school to get a degree. They go because college is the NFL's farm league and you have to be part of a corrupt system, where they are not paid, for at least three years. In most cases, guidance couselors have been steering blue chip projects away from serious academics since middle school because of their athletic potential.

So who’s fault is that? Schools offer these kids free education, it’s their responsibility to obtain that. Yes these kids are young and believe they are indestructible but if you watch football which I’m sure all these kids do they should know that is not the case. If they don’t plan for their future after football then that’s on them an no one else. There are plenty of college athletes who go to class, study, and still play what ever sport. Football only last through half the school year. I would imagine as long as the NCAA has been around there are rules for how much time these kids can spend practicing so they are allowed to study and do home work. If they chose to do something else during that time then again that’s on them. I was not a college athlete so maybe if someone was they could chime in on this.

The truth is these kids have the opportunity to get a free education and if they don’t then that’s on them. If they do make it to the NFL and blow all their money, that’s on them. Greg Robinson the Browns OT just showed everyone what happens when you don’t pursued that free education and can’t make ends meet.

 

[No2DC]

So who’s fault is that? Schools offer these kids free education, it’s their responsibility to obtain that. Yes these kids are young and believe they are indestructible but if you watch football which I’m sure all these kids do they should know that is not the case. If they don’t plan for their future after football then that’s on them an no one else. There are plenty of college athletes who go to class, study, and still play what ever sport. Football only last through half the school year. I would imagine as long as the NCAA has been around there are rules for how much time these kids can spend practicing so they are allowed to study and do home work. If they chose to do something else during that time then again that’s on them. I was not a college athlete so maybe if someone was they could chime in on this.

The truth is these kids have the opportunity to get a free education and if they don’t then that’s on them. If they do make it to the NFL and blow all their money, that’s on them. Greg Robinson the Browns OT just showed everyone what happens when you don’t pursued that free education and can’t make ends meet.

That's a valid point but let's be real about the socioeconomic background of the majority of athletes in the NFL. How many times have you heard several prominent nfl players lament that they come from rough backgrounds where sports or being an musician was viewed as the only way out of a troubled background. In many cases, being taken in by a coach was the only way to secure a stable environment. A lot of coaches do not care about your career trajectory outside of playing sports and all they care about it is if you're eligible to play. Unless you have friends or family emphasizing the importance of financial planning (not just school), a lot of athletes mismanage their finances. Their school and guidance counselors primary goal is getting them to play on Friday or Saturday, not ensuring their long term success beyond sports.

 

[soggymoss]

I read through the notes on it, and it actually sounds like a great deal for the players. 100% guaranteed contracts will never happen in the NFL, there's just to much risk for a career ending injury that could hamstring a team for years

 

[CRESS_137]

Good. I'd like to see the players wield some of the power that they have. Hope some of these guys have been putting money away.

 

[Super44]

What you talking about? These kids don't go to school to get a degree. They go because college is the NFL's farm league and you have to be part of a corrupt system, where they are not paid, for at least three years. In most cases, guidance couselors have been steering blue chip projects away from serious academics since middle school because of their athletic potential.

So? Again, there are many (not most), that find their way, because they simply are smarter! PERIOD! The dummies, are easily misled. That is a shame, but the fact is, THEY HAVE PARENTS and family members to guide them. I always encouraged my son to disregard the hype of others. Stay your course, even though you are being told how good you are...blah blah. I didnt need to tell him. He saw it and realized the fact, his education was the focus. Even in middle school. The REAL problem is with the parents of the dummies. They start it all off, by telling their kids how great of an athelete they are (You could be the next Jordan/Watt/Mahomes/Woods/Federer/Ruth...etc). THE PARENTS, are the initiators. No one else. Do not blame others, or groups. Blame the parents and the dummies.

 

[Consigliere]

That's a valid point but let's be real about the socioeconomic background of the majority of athletes in the NFL. How many times have you heard several prominent nfl players lament that they come from rough backgrounds where sports or being an musician was viewed as the only way out of a troubled background. In many cases, being taken in by a coach was the only way to secure a stable environment. A lot of coaches do not care about your career trajectory outside of playing sports and all they care about it is if you're eligible to play. Unless you have friends or family emphasizing the importance of financial planning (not just school), a lot of athletes mismanage their finances. Their school and guidance counselors primary goal is getting them to play on Friday or Saturday, not ensuring their long term success beyond sports.

This may be a little off topic, but what does Marshawn mean when he says "take care of your chicken" (twice)? Thanks.

 

[Super44]

This may be a little off topic, but what does Marshawn mean when he says "take care of your chicken" (twice)? Thanks.

It means he is a dummy, and was one of the lucky players that made millions. It happens. All you can say. Glad he did.

 

[CRESS_137]

This may be a little off topic, but what does Marshawn mean when he says "take care of your chicken" (twice)? Thanks.

chicken=$

 

[CanadianSaint]

 

[St. Widge]

Interesting perspective here. Basically Marcus Spears and Dan Graziano (both former players) are implying that Watt is a rich guy who doesn't need the money and is ignoring the fact that this deal raises the minimum salary 25% and increases the minimum salary every year after that. That doesn't matter to J.J. Watt, but it matters to 50% of the players who make minimum salary. So, maybe this isn't the owners trying to screw the little guy?

They also point out that this is a deal that was negotiated with the NFLPA leadership and player reps so if the other players have an issue with it, they probably should have been player reps or participated in the negotiations.

 

[Loose Cannon]

So? Again, there are many (not most), that find their way, because they simply are smarter! PERIOD! The dummies, are easily misled. That is a shame, but the fact is, THEY HAVE PARENTS and family members to guide them. I always encouraged my son to disregard the hype of others. Stay your course, even though you are being told how good you are...blah blah. I didnt need to tell him. He saw it and realized the fact, his education was the focus. Even in middle school. The REAL problem is with the parents of the dummies. They start it all off, by telling their kids how great of an athelete they are (You could be the next Jordan/Watt/Mahomes/Woods/Federer/Ruth...etc). THE PARENTS, are the initiators. No one else. Do not blame others, or groups. Blame the parents and the dummies.

 

[insidejob]

When did everything suddenly become a "hard no" or a "hard pass"? No or pass isn't sufficient?

 

[Loose Cannon]

So? Again, there are many (not most), that find their way, because they simply are smarter! PERIOD! The dummies, are easily misled. That is a shame, but the fact is, THEY HAVE PARENTS and family members to guide them. I always encouraged my son to disregard the hype of others. Stay your course, even though you are being told how good you are...blah blah. I didnt need to tell him. He saw it and realized the fact, his education was the focus. Even in middle school. The REAL problem is with the parents of the dummies. They start it all off, by telling their kids how great of an athelete they are (You could be the next Jordan/Watt/Mahomes/Woods/Federer/Ruth...etc). THE PARENTS, are the initiators. No one else. Do not blame others, or groups. Blame the parents and the dummies.

- No comma after "many (not most)"
- No comma after "find their way"
- No comma after "dummies"
- Forgot the apostrophe in "didn't"
- No comma after "realized the fact"
- "realized the fact his education" should be "realized the fact that his education"
- No comma after "start it all off"
- It's spelled "athlete" not "athelete"
- No comma after "THE PARENTS"

I hope when you were teaching your son things, you encouraged him to learn about grammar and spelling somewhere else. I'd hate for him to be thought of as a dummy.

 

[livefromDC]

Perhaps I'm missing something but, the new CBA will give owners the opportunity to go to 17 games, right? And if they have that opportunity, they're definitely playing 17 games.

So why is the "raise" not being called what it truly will be? Payment for playing an extra game. The money they stand to make from a 17th games far exceeds what they will pay out in minimum salaries for the players who will get it. Across the board they're getting an extra game out of all the players except those making the minimum. Players under contracts will be playing an extra game for free. This is a steal for the owners. I'm mad too if I'm JJ Watt. His game check just took a dip and his injury risk increased.

 

[Buhbooh]

The biggest need right now is for the teams to expand the active roster to 50 players. Stay put at 16 games, expand to 18 weeks. Seed by record alone, but still guarantee playoffs for division winners. I should be commissioner.