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1 - -thanks for the kind words and the loss of conversation from all the posters who blocked you after posting such sillinessThis is what I've tried to convince my dear friend Guido of (I joke with you Gudio but you might be the brightest poster on this forum) He wasn't always a dumb pretty boy. Like Ned,he is tied to his honor. But he brought in the wildlings and convinced them to fight for him. He united the North when it was torn apart. He convinced Dany to fight for him.
And more importantly he beat the fork out of Ramsay and left him to Sansa. This doesn't support my argument but it was cool as hell.
2-- that sort of flattery might work on jon, but...
anyway, no one is arguing that Jon is not super charismatic b/c he's humblebrave
he's like a good QB that everyone loves playing for, but as a coach he's like Ditka - he DESPERATELY needs a buddy ryan (like Sansa in the BotB)