Here we go again, calling any kind of extreme cold a 'polar vortex' (1 Viewer)

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Polar vortex is just a term that describes a certain meteorological setup in when the jet stream lines up over Northern Alaska the dips down through Canada into the midwest.

When that same jet stream is over Hawaii and heads straight into Washington it's called the pineapple express. Brings heavy rain into the Pacific NW.

Just like we have nor'easters, clipper systems, artic fronts, etc. It's just a meteorological term that describes a large scale scenario in one or two words which also brings a set of conditions with it.

Saying polar vortex is so much easier than saying the jet stream is setting up north of Alaska, dropping down over western Canada into the midwest of the US bringing extreme cold conditions down to the US and likely to lead to heavy synoptic snow as well as large amounts of lake effect snow.

As for cold fronts, you have many different types of Cold fronts. You have longwave and shortwave fronts. The ones we see most in the south are Pacific fronts which tend to bring severe weather in the spring and fall. You have artic fronts which drop straight down from the north bringing cold air. We even see backdoor fronts some in the late spring and early fall. Then you have synoptic longwave fronts usually from a very strong low pressure systems ejecting over the great lakes. Stationary fronts usually from positive tilt low pressure systems that quickly eject northward removing the energy needed to keep it moving away to the north. See a lot of these in the South in late spring. It's why so much flooding tends to happen in May.

So nothing new, Polar vortex has a label just like every other system.

Now naming winter storms....
 

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Polar vortex my butt. Just 12,000 years ago, what is now Chicago, was under continental glaciers. Now that's a friggin cold front. :idunno:
If you watch the Chicago news today you'll be convinced that we will be covered by those glaciers by tomorrow.

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Polar vortex my butt. Just 12,000 years ago, what is now Chicago, was under continental glaciers. Now that's a friggin cold front. :idunno:
Tell us about those days, pappy. :hihi:
 

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As to winter storms..I've actually heard that it's useful in insurance claims and with general awareness. Sure, i'm sure it's blown out of proportion a bit.

But to those who really get annoyed at weather media..I ask..Would you still have a problem with sensationalism (as you see it) in weather if it caused people to be more aware and more lives/property were saved?

Just a thought

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Is the polar vortex bringing the deadly "Thunder Snow"?
Thunder snows are incredible..I was in one last year, lots of lightning but never heard one strike because of the "muffling" of the sound due to heavy snow. Not dangerous though.
 

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Polar vortex is just a term that describes a certain meteorological setup in when the jet stream lines up over Northern Alaska the dips down through Canada into the midwest.

When that same jet stream is over Hawaii and heads straight into Washington it's called the pineapple express. Brings heavy rain into the Pacific NW.

Just like we have nor'easters, clipper systems, artic fronts, etc. It's just a meteorological term that describes a large scale scenario in one or two words which also brings a set of conditions with it.

Saying polar vortex is so much easier than saying the jet stream is setting up north of Alaska, dropping down over western Canada into the midwest of the US bringing extreme cold conditions down to the US and likely to lead to heavy synoptic snow as well as large amounts of lake effect snow.

As for cold fronts, you have many different types of Cold fronts. You have longwave and shortwave fronts. The ones we see most in the south are Pacific fronts which tend to bring severe weather in the spring and fall. You have artic fronts which drop straight down from the north bringing cold air. We even see backdoor fronts some in the late spring and early fall. Then you have synoptic longwave fronts usually from a very strong low pressure systems ejecting over the great lakes. Stationary fronts usually from positive tilt low pressure systems that quickly eject northward removing the energy needed to keep it moving away to the north. See a lot of these in the South in late spring. It's why so much flooding tends to happen in May.

So nothing new, Polar vortex has a label just like every other system.

Now naming winter storms....
tl;dr so basically "polar vortex" is just media sensationalism like "superstorm," right?

Jk thanks for the explanation
 

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Thunder snows are incredible..I was in one last year, lots of lightning but never heard one strike because of the "muffling" of the sound due to heavy snow. Not dangerous though.
More than likely I'll be heading to the Buffalo area Wednesday for a few days to cover lake effect snow and hopefully get some thundersnow.
 

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Why do conservatives get so twisty about weather names
My dad has been ranting for 20 years about "heat index" and "feels like" temperature
 

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Why do conservatives get so twisty about weather names
My dad has been ranting for 20 years about "heat index" and "feels like" temperature
Mainly because its stupid.

Daily hyperbole is the mark of an hysterical mind.

Words lose meaning when used improperly and language becomes ridiculous.
 

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Mainly because its stupid.

Daily hyperbole is the mark of an hysterical mind.

Words lose meaning when used improperly and language becomes ridiculous.
So you're trying to be Meterologically Correct? Interesting

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Polar vortex is just a term that describes a certain meteorological setup in when the jet stream lines up over Northern Alaska the dips down through Canada into the midwest.

When that same jet stream is over Hawaii and heads straight into Washington it's called the pineapple express. Brings heavy rain into the Pacific NW.

Just like we have nor'easters, clipper systems, artic fronts, etc. It's just a meteorological term that describes a large scale scenario in one or two words which also brings a set of conditions with it.

Saying polar vortex is so much easier than saying the jet stream is setting up north of Alaska, dropping down over western Canada into the midwest of the US bringing extreme cold conditions down to the US and likely to lead to heavy synoptic snow as well as large amounts of lake effect snow...

So nothing new, Polar vortex has a label just like every other system.
well, OP did have difficulty understanding how an on-campus Starbucks worked; it was some rogue franchise legally allowed to leech off of the students, given unfair free rent and the economic latitude to operate independently only for gain while having to give nothing back. Except that didn't work that way, either. More 'nothing to see here' really, in the end. Same song as before.

when everything is a conspiratorial cabal and all you have is a hammer...
 

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