Poll How are you planning to vote in 2020 as things stand right now? (1 Viewer)

How are you planning to vote in 2020 as things stand right now?

  • Vote Blue, No Matter Who

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I know it's waaaaay to early to predict who's going to be the nominee on the left, but I'm trying to get an understanding on how people are approaching this election in general.

Me, personally, I'm in the vote blue, no matter who camp right now, unless there is an actual Republican challenger against Trump with a shot at beating him. I definitely won't be voting third party in this election. I feel the stakes are just too high. I know my vote means very little to nothing since I'm in the reddest of red states of Louisiana, so throwing a vote to a third party wouldn't really change anything, but I want the numbers to be as strong as possible against Trump even in states he wins. I just can't see the country I was born, raised and thrived in withstanding another 4 years of daily scandals, international missteps, a briefing room that remains vacant for months at a time, Sarah Sanders being a twin of Baghdad Bob, etc. That's without even touching on his dangerous/unethical/cruel policies and the obvious For Sale sign he's put on the USA with all of his hotels and golf resorts nationwide that we found evidence of being sold to Chinese businessmen (and whoever else could come up with the $$$) in this massage parlor raid with the selfies and other photos of Trump and his entire clan taking pics with this woman who's basically a human trafficker (the same kind of person Trump is touting his wall is necessary to keep out of the country).
 
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If it ends up being someone more on the lines of a 'democratic socialist' rather than a pragmatist or centrist, it will be harder to swallow, but I remain committed to doing anything I can to keep Trump from winning because I think he's psychologically unfit for the office of the president. This was my view in in 2016, and I supported Kasich in the GOP primary and voted for HRC. I'll do the same thing if I can - vote for anyone else in the GOP primary, if there even is one, and almost certainly vote for whoever gets the Democratic nom.
 

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Has to be blue. I don't like doing that, but Trump's an embarrassment, (likely) a traitor, and mentally unfit. If the GOP runs someone different, I would consider the candidate, but since they're happy letting Trump run rickshawk through the office, they'd really have to win my vote.
 

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Has to be blue. I don't like doing that, but Trump's an embarrassment, (likely) a traitor, and mentally unfit. If the GOP runs someone different, I would consider the candidate, but since they're happy letting Trump run rickshawk through the office, they'd really have to win my vote.
I've voted for republican candidates in the past......Jindal twice (1 loss (Blanco), 1 win (1st term)). However, the absolute hypocrisy that they demonstrate now will have me voting for democrats I don't even like. Republicans have shown me all I need to see for now. They're constitutional conservatives when they are not in power and have shown time and time again since 2016 that they don't give a damn about the constitution as long as they are in control. At least Republicans from the 70's and 80's actually believed in and supported the constitution and took their oath seriously.
 

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I really don't know what I'm going to do. I would vote for my own castration with a rusty and dull bungee cord hook before I'd ever consider casting a vote for the current Oval Office occupant. But I'm not on board with many of the democratic platform planks either, so advancing that vision of the country unabated isn't appealing either. Depending on which way Virginia is leaning at the time, I would consider supporting a blue wave if it was my only other option. But my plan and desire is to cast a vote, write-in if necessary, for someone who has done the homework and developed ideas that I personally can support.
 
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I really don't know what I'm going to do. I would vote for my own castration with a rusty and dull bungee cord hook before I'd ever consider casting a vote for the current Oval Office occupant. But I'm not on board with many of the democratic platform planks either, so advancing that vision of the country unabated isn't appealing either. Depending on which way Virginia is leaning at the time, I would consider supporting a blue wave if it was my only other option. But my plan and desire is to cast a vote, write-in if necessary, for someone who has done the homework and developed ideas that I personally can support.
I'm not down with a lot of the farthest of the far left proposals, but in reality, they'd have to pass that legislation in Congress. That'd be a tough task. Then again, they could just declare an emergency relative to whatever they want that they can't get done through Congress and pilfer the coffers of any departments they choose to fund their ideas. Like the nearly $9 billion Trump's got in his budget for his wall. (Unless the Supreme Court actually does their job on this one. Roberts being more moderate than anyone expected him to be could bring this whole thing back to reality and make it so emergencies have to actually be emergencies in order for a declaration to be made.)

The red seats that flipped to blue in the mid-terms weren't won by far left candidates. They were moderates who won those. Candidates should really look at that and strategize around it if they want to win the rust belt back.

I really hope Mayor Pete manages to at least get on a ticket as a VP candidate. He'd eat Pence alive in those debates, especially since they're from the same state and Mayor Pete knows Pence better than anyone. The guy is just so smart, down to earth, authentic, isn't afraid to laugh (even at his own expense) and seems like a guy who genuinely cares about people.
 
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I'm not down with a lot of the farthest of the far left proposals, but in reality, they'd have to pass that legislation in Congress. That'd be a tough task. Then again, they could just declare an emergency relative to whatever they want that they can't get done through Congress and pilfer the coffers of any departments they choose to fund their ideas. Like the nearly $9 billion Trump's got in his budget for his wall. (Unless the Supreme Court actually does their job on this one. Roberts being more moderate than anyone expected him to be could bring this whole thing back to reality and make it so emergencies have to actually be emergencies in order for a declaration to be made.

The red seats that flipped to blue in the mid-terms weren't won by far left candidates. They were moderates who won those. Candidates should really look at that and strategize around it if they want to win the rust belt back.

I really hope Mayor Pete manages to at least get on a ticket as a VP candidate. He'd eat Pence alive in those debates, especially since they're from the same state and Mayor Pete knows Pence better than anyone. The guy is just so smart, down to earth, authentic, isn't afraid to laugh (even at his own expense) and seems like a guy who genuinely cares about people.
Yeah, I like that guy Pete. I saw him on Morning Joe and thought to myself that it's a damn shame that some people won't be able to get past the fact that he's gay. I like Biden too. I'd consider Harris and wouldn't be mad with Beto.
 
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Yeah, I like that guy Pete. I saw him on Morning Joe and thought to myself that it's a damn shame that some people won't be able to get past the fact that he's gay. I like Biden too. I'd consider Harris and wouldn't be mad with Beto.
There really is a strong field of candidates. I just hope they realize that even though they're competing, they all have the same ultimate goal in mind. No need to go so hard after each other that you cannibalize each other and all that's left come nomination time are a bunch of candidates who've gotten covered in mud from all the slinging and doing the dirty work for Trump instead of making him actually strategize to beat someone who doesn't have the decades of real baggage like Clinton did. Even those with long public service records aren't in the same area code as Clinton when it comes to baggage.
 

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I am not committed to it until I learn who the nominee will be, but there is an outstanding chance that I will be casting my first ever vote for the Democrat in a presidential election. I am with crosswatt on Trump, though I draw the line at the castration thing.
 

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If it ends up being someone more on the lines of a 'democratic socialist' rather than a pragmatist or centrist, it will be harder to swallow, but I remain committed to doing anything I can to keep Trump from winning because I think he's psychologically unfit for the office of the president. This was my view in in 2016, and I supported Kasich in the GOP primary and voted for HRC. I'll do the same thing if I can - vote for anyone else in the GOP primary, if there even is one, and almost certainly vote for whoever gets the Democratic nom.
On NPR, they were talking about how centrist or moderate republicans may end up registered as democrats to help push along a more palatable Democrat.
 

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Yeah, I'm like 99.9999% voting for a Democrat. It would take a really awful candidate, some major illegality, or a reasonable Republican somehow winning the primary against Trump to get me to reconsider.

He's just far too shallow a human.
 

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