How we can fix Jameis (1 Viewer)

[El Caliente]

You know the carrot and the stick method? Well hear me out...crab legs.

 

[dwid]

His decisions in the Bruce Arians offense:

Throw risky bomb option #1. If not open, progress to risky bomb option #2. If still not there, check down to insanely covered Hail-Mary route #3.

He executed that offense as well as anyone, but the problem wasn't the QB I don't think. But you are correct in that we can coach decision making, you can't coach the intangibles he has.

While he did attempt the most deep passes of any qb, most of his picks came on short to intermediate throws, with "only" 9 interceptions occuring on deep throws

 

[TooDopeGoldRope]

While he did attempt the most deep passes of any qb, most of his picks came on short to intermediate throws, with "only" 9 interceptions occuring on deep throws

That's rather encouraging.

And to respond to the criticism of me comparing his cieling of Rodgers and Mahomes level performances , I stand by it.

He was drafted higher than both for a reason. His arm is just as big , can make virtually all the same throws.

His first 5 seasons compared with Peyton's and Drew's are very similar.

We have a perfect situation for him to walk into. There's no imaginable way he'd get worse.

 

[VPCajun]

How we can fix Jameis

Simple. Ship him out.

We all know that Saints players play much better once they leave...

 

[Que Que 6]

Guy has a cannon for an arm...his decision making is what needs work. You can't teach arm strength but fortunately you can teach decision making. I'd like to see him tear it up here.

Are we bypassing the fact that the dude was damn near blind until a few months ago? LOL. Let's see if that helps a bit. LOL

 

[Que Que 6]

Simple. Ship him out.

We all know that Saints players play much better once they leave...

That's what ya'll wanted to do to Teddy right after 9 was hurt. To rush 7 in for a permanent place. Oh, I remember. I was in the simple minority back then. Explaining how ignorant that concept was

 

[SystemShock]

Leave it to the experts. The veterinarian will know how to do it safely.

 

[ccss]

Jameis had 30 interceptions in 2019, with 5109 yards passing and 33 touchdowns(also 47 sacks and who knows how many hits) and he is being branded as damaged goods, a horrible decision-maker, unable to digest the complexities of the quarterback position or something, I don't know what. Based on that fact, he is not worth a second look and the Saints should look elsewhere for the future.

Well, it turns out that when you look at quarterbacks that have done pretty good in the past who sufferred similar single-season interceptions, there are some pretty good players that made that list. And, this is not a complete list.

Single-season interceptions in parenthasis:

George Blanda(42), Vinny Testaverdie(35), John Hadl(32), Fran Tarkenton(32), Jim Hart(30), Ken Stabler(30), Brett Favre (29), PEYTON MANNING(28), Joe Namath(28), Y A Tittle(28), Eli Manning(27) ---- I assume some of those were less than 16 game seasons.

So, it seems to me that Jameis is in pretty good company, though only one on that list was able to join him in the 5000 yard club(Peyton).

Makes you wonder???

 

[dwid]

You are doubling down on them having the same stats. Different angle, same point. They are clearly not the same stats. Tribusky is probably the best QB in the league compared to a QB in the 60s.

Dungy is now a talking head and he is commenting on stats fed to him. He is no longer a head coach. He is there for commentary only.

Critically think about this for a second...

If Winston was just as good as Peyton Manning 20 years ago but a bottom 10 QB in the league now, the majority of the league is now better than Peyton Manning. So Winston was still not good.

Actually if you compare Trubiskys 2018 season to early 2000s he would have been a top 3 qb most years. Even his slump year he would've been right outside top 10. This year his ratings would have been back as a top 10 qb, for early 2000 standards. Should we try to get him in the off-season? lol

Instead of comparing him to a young Brady how about we compare him to a 43 year old Brady, who definitely looked like he declined last year. He was getting same criticisms as Brees, about how his wideouts had to be college open in order for him to take a shot, instead of the tight windows they were accustomed to seeing him throw into. He's on pace for 4400 yards 38 TDs 12 interceptions. It's almost the same damn team. Yea Winston had 5000 yards but it's alot of garbage time stats and trying to dig the team out of the hole he put them in.

 

[Stalwart385]

I'm trying to get the facts straight about Jameis's past. That and nothing more. Yet I feel like I have to defend my self from generalizations. Its a common theme with any subject.

- I do not know if he can play better in the future or not (ie. is he fixable)
- Im not against him staying. If there is a chance he can eliminate his errors then I'd like to see Payton work with him. I don't think the cap makes it likely though
- Teddy is awesome. I wish he could be our 2021 QB. He's not a HoFer or anything but he would have been perfect for this team. Unfortunately the timing was just off. I was all for Teddy over Taysom when Brees went out.

 

[QLazzarus]

trade em

 

[bobad]

His decisions in the Bruce Arians offense:

Throw risky bomb option #1. If not open, progress to risky bomb option #2. If still not there, check down to insanely covered Hail-Mary route #3.

He executed that offense as well as anyone, but the problem wasn't the QB I don't think. But you are correct in that we can coach decision making, you can't coach the intangibles he has.

So you're saying many of his INT's were like punts?

 

[Madmarsha]

Keep him supplied in crab legs.

 

[Loco Hornet Fan]

So you're saying many of his INT's were like punts?

Not that many deep interceptions, actually.

 

[dwid]

For the ppl trashing his line, looking at the advanced stats, he actually did his worse with a clean pocket. I think his best chance would to be used like a Tannehill but I don't see Payton doing that because it would require us to be a run heavy offense.