I'm ready to rebuild. Mac Jones or bust (2 Viewers)

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Let's face it guys we won't win until we start getting younger in most of these vet positions. We can't afford to keep everyone but at least lets just break down the right way and put it all back together. SAINTS 4 LIFE!!! Winston will find another home else where and so will Taysom.
 

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Eli Manning, John Elway, and Troy Aikman won a combined 6 superbowls with qbs ratings of 93 or Below.

Like I said, I'll take my chances with Mac Jones and Payton if it comes to that.
 

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Smh.

Rebuild a young team already and draft Mac Jones. Danny Weurfful looked good in college too!
Danny Wuerfell was projected as a late round pick. Many scouts didn’t think he would be drafted at all, and were stunned when the Saints took him early.

Mac Jones is projected by absolutely everyone as a 1-3 round pick, and most project him in the late first round. It would surprise no one if the Saints picked him in the first round.

He would be a good pick.
 

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Sounds like a Highly questionable character too.

Who would want a guy like this?



"MEET MAC JONES

Mac Jones, born Michael McCorkle Jones, is a talented athlete with a dynamic personality and a 4.0 GPA.

Community Service

University of Alabama Dance Marathon, 2020
UA Women’s Tennis Honorary First Serve, 2020
University of Alabama Tornado Relief Effort, 2019
Head Coach of 2018 Intramural Champions Zeta Tau Alpha, 2018
East Tuscaloosa Community Soup Bowl, 2017-2018
West Alabama Food Bank, 2017
West Alabama’s Walk to End Alzheimer’s, 2017
RISE Center, 2017


Academic Honors

President’s List, 2017-2019
Dean’s List, 2017-2019
Lambda Pi Eta Honor Society Top Paper Award, 2019
Student-Athlete of the Week, 2018-2019
SEC First Year Academic Honor Roll
Omicron Delta Kappa Honor Society
The Anderson Society
Phi Eta Sigma National Honor Society
The National Society of Collegiate Scholars
Golden Key International Honor Society"




"There, the Crimson Tide named four permanent team captains in senior offensive linemen Landon Dickerson and Alex Leatherwood, redshirt junior quarterback Mac Jones and senior receiver DeVonta Smith, who was a captain in 2019. Captains are chosen by the players."

 

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Top 3 2020 drafted QBs drafted to terrible teams:

1st overall Burrow: 89.8 qb rating
5th overall Tagovailoa 87.1 rating
6th overall Herbert 98.3 rating

Qb rating with Payton:

Bridgewater--99.1
Hill---98.8
McCown---( 1 game 91.8 )



If I'm a betting man, I think a QB with a record high qb rating like Burrow, Tagovailoa, and Wilson combined with Sean Payton who elevated Bridgewater, Hill, McCown and Brees to their highest qb ratings ever is a good bet to take.
 

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Let's face it guys we won't win until we start getting younger in most of these vet positions. We can't afford to keep everyone but at least lets just break down the right way and put it all back together. SAINTS 4 LIFE!!! Winston will find another home else where and so will Taysom.
Did you miss the AARP tandem that just dominated the Super Bowl??
 

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Really?! Those guys are the qbs that teams want, because the NFL is getting mobile. Mac Jones reminds you guys of DB, but that's not the new wave. No one is breaking down the doors for Jones!!!
Tom Brady alone has more superbowl wins than all mobile qbs combined.

Which mobile qb ever won the superbowl in the past 40 or 50 years other than Steve Young?

Cam Newton failed.

McNabb's failed.

Kaepernick failed.

And those are the only ones who made it.
 

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Mahomes

1) lost to the ultimate pocket passer
2) never ran for more than 300 yards and 2 tds in a season
I think you're setting arbitrary numbers to prove whether someone is mobile.

No one thinks a player has to run for a lot of yards to stress the D. But Mahomes is certainly mobile and hurts teams when necessary (especially the divisional playoffs last year). It also doesn't mean a less mobile QB CAN'T win a Super Bowl. But the more elements you have to stress a D, the less perfect you have to be elsewhere.

Also..Russell Wilson?
 

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I think you're setting arbitrary numbers to prove whether someone is mobile.

No one thinks a player has to run for a lot of yards to stress the D. But Mahomes is certainly mobile and hurts teams when necessary (especially the divisional playoffs last year). It also doesn't mean a less mobile QB CAN'T win a Super Bowl. But the more elements you have to stress a D, the less perfect you have to be elsewhere.

Also..Russell Wilson?

There certainly has to be a standard for "Mobility," correct? or how else can you exclude QBs like Brees or Brady?

I give you Wilson but Wilson also has 900 yard rushing seasons in his resume.

You really want to tell me Mahomes is anything like Wilson, Lamar, Jackson or Michael Vick?
 

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There certainly has to be a standard for "Mobility," correct? or how else can you exclude QBs like Brees or Brady?
Not really. I can look at the game and see whether or not someone can run and stress a D and, in turn, whether the D has to account for them.

Not everything has to be measured in numbers.
 

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I think you're setting arbitrary numbers to prove whether someone is mobile.

No one thinks a player has to run for a lot of yards to stress the D. But Mahomes is certainly mobile and hurts teams when necessary (especially the divisional playoffs last year). It also doesn't mean a less mobile QB CAN'T win a Super Bowl. But the more elements you have to stress a D, the less perfect you have to be elsewhere.

Also..Russell Wilson?

At any rate, both Mahomes and Wilson have something else in common:

Losing to Tom Brady who has only rushed for 1043 yards in 21 NFL seasons.
 
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Not really. I can look at the game and see whether or not someone can run and stress a D and, in turn, whether the D has to account for them.

Not everything has to be measured in numbers.
Pocket passers have won, what, 28 of the last 30 superbowls if not more?

I agree that it doesn't prove that Mobile QBs can't win it but it does demonstrate that it's far too soon to be saying any eulogies for the pocket passer system.
 

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