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I wonder if AD is going to get over his aversion to playing center with LA. Because right now he's their center, and is probably going to play a lot of center no matter which G-leaguers they sign to fill out the roster.

AD's refusal to play center is what got us into the whole Asik mess....

Will be fun to watch. 🙂
Well right now he's their Center, Power Forward, backup small forward, backup shooting guard, 4th assistant coach and waterboy. The Lakers roster is uhhhh bare to say the least. :LOL:


The Lakers were engaging additional teams on Tuesday to take on the contracts of three of the remaining five players on the team's roster --- Mo Wagner, Isaac Bonga and Jemerrio Jones -- league sources said. Kyle Kuzma and LeBron James are the only other two Lakers remaining on the team's end-of-season roster.
 

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That's why I kind of like the idea of drafting Darius Garland at #4 unless Morant or Barrett fall to #4. It would give the team insurance for if Ball can not develop a shot and it would allow Garland to run the second unit as the PG. That gives Ball time to develop a shot and gives the Pelicans offense and a backup PG for the second unit. It also gives Garland time to develop without the pressure of starting every night. It also buys you a couple years before you have to make a decision on Ball.
I’ll admit to not having watched Garland play (not that there were many opportunities), but I’ve been hearing a lot of positive buzz around him (and I’ve seen some clips on YouTube). I think I’ve warmed up to him at #4 for a lot of the same reasons you listed.

He’s got a ton of potential, and we would be able to develop him at our own pace (with the guards we already have on the roster). And like you said, his shooting would be very nice to have. He could also be insurance in case Ball continues to miss a bunch of games.
 

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That's why I kind of like the idea of drafting Darius Garland at #4 unless Morant or Barrett fall to #4. It would give the team insurance for if Ball can not develop a shot and it would allow Garland to run the second unit as the PG. That gives Ball time to develop a shot and gives the Pelicans offense and a backup PG for the second unit. It also gives Garland time to develop without the pressure of starting every night. It also buys you a couple years before you have to make a decision on Ball.
You can never have too many PGs, IMO and in today's NBA we see plenty of matchups with 3+ guards. Plus, injuries.
I’ll admit to not having watched Garland play (not that there were many opportunities), but I’ve been hearing a lot of positive buzz around him (and I’ve seen some clips on YouTube). I think I’ve warmed up to him at #4 for a lot of the same reasons you listed.

He’s got a ton of potential, and we would be able to develop him at our own pace (with the guards we already have on the roster). And like you said, his shooting would be very nice to have. He could also be insurance in case Ball continues to miss a bunch of games.
He's more Dame Lillard than CP3 at the position, IMO. Even if the Pels don't work out a trade beforehand, I'd grab him regardless of whether or not he was traded after the draft. Worst-case scenario is that you find yourself with another outside shooter who helps space out the floor.
 

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I’ll admit to not having watched Garland play (not that there were many opportunities), but I’ve been hearing a lot of positive buzz around him (and I’ve seen some clips on YouTube). I think I’ve warmed up to him at #4 for a lot of the same reasons you listed.

He’s got a ton of potential, and we would be able to develop him at our own pace (with the guards we already have on the roster). And like you said, his shooting would be very nice to have. He could also be insurance in case Ball continues to miss a bunch of games.
I think it would be a serious mistake to pass on him.
 

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So, how would this help the Pels? I assume there would have to be something in it for them to redo the deal. I'm slowly learning. :)

Adrian Wojnarowski and Bobby Marks of ESPN reported Tuesday night that the Lakers are in the process of trying to rework the deal with the Pelicans in order to create room for a max salary slot.
 

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So, how would this help the Pels? I assume there would have to be something in it for them to redo the deal. I'm slowly learning. :)


It's not like the Pels can force Davis to waive his bonus. What leverage do they have to get us to do anything other than completely cancelling the deal?
 

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So, how would this help the Pels? I assume there would have to be something in it for them to redo the deal. I'm slowly learning. :)


If the Pelicans play nice and wait until July 30th to finalize the deal, it would give the lakers enough cap space to sign a 3rd max
contract. If they do it July 6th, the lakers won't have the cap space. In short, Pelinka is in over his head. We still control their draft
for the next seven years. Jerry West would not have made a trade like this in a million years.
 

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If the Pelicans play nice and wait until July 30th to finalize the deal, it would give the lakers enough cap space to sign a 3rd max
contract. If they do it July 6th, the lakers won't have the cap space. In short, Pelinka is in over his head. We still control their draft
for the next seven years. Jerry West would not have made a trade like this in a million years.
What incentive would the Pelicans have to play nice with the Lakers? We bet on their ineptitude and have a lot of stake in them failing, especially in the future. Pelinka was in way over his head and we should let him drown.
 

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I’ll admit to not having watched Garland play (not that there were many opportunities), but I’ve been hearing a lot of positive buzz around him (and I’ve seen some clips on YouTube). I think I’ve warmed up to him at #4 for a lot of the same reasons you listed.

He’s got a ton of potential, and we would be able to develop him at our own pace (with the guards we already have on the roster). And like you said, his shooting would be very nice to have. He could also be insurance in case Ball continues to miss a bunch of games.
When you watch Darius Garland play, it's easy to see his "sky's the limit" potential. He's got a great handle and is a pure shooter. He has to get a lot stronger though and that's not always a given. His decision making is questionable at times, leading to many live ball turnovers and easy transition baskets. While he could certainly figure this all out at the next level, he could also end up being a Lou Williams, 6th man, instant offense guy.

That's not a bad thing, but this draft is a lot deeper than some are making it out to be. DeAndre Hunter was the difference between being upset by a 16 seed and winning a national championship. It's the Kawhi effect. When you know you have the best player on the floor, you play better. So guys like Jerome and Guy who are role players at the next level at best, can shine like stars in college. That's what got Kyle Lowry over the hump this year.

Hunter is 6'8", 225 lbs. He has a 7'+ wingspan and is STRONG. He has a high basketball IQ, knows where he is on the court at all times and can be a ferocious defender. His offensive game needs polishing, but there isn't anything he can't do yet. He can score in the post, he shot 44% from three and 78% from the free throw line. He's the closest thing to Kawhi (#15 pick) since Kawhi.

If Jarrett Culver can continue to fill out his 6'7" frame, he can be a great wing at the next level. Athletic, long, good shooter, plus defender.

I have all of these guys ahead of RJ Barrett. I even think Cam Reddish will be a better pro than RJ when it's all said and done. If Cam would've went to a different school, he'd likely be in the lottery discussion. He had to play as the third option, when he's been the first option all is life. He's a much better defender than RJ. When Zion went out and more of the offense ran through Cam, his numbers were much higher.

RJ is made for NY. Big numbers on a bad team type of guy. There is no question the physical tools are there, but his lack of awareness is alarming. He was typically not defending the opponents' best players and still wasn't overly impressive as a defender. There are times that he's completely lost on the floor and he ball watches defensively. Super teams in college should win championships, not miss the final four. Zion was dominant. Cam was forced to come off the bench, which was also new to him. RJ just doesn't make enough winning plays.

I know all this may sound crazy because it goes against most of what you read or hear about this draft, but when the Raptors win a championship without a single lottery pick on their roster, you realize draft position doesn't mean anything. For every AD, there are more Anthony Bennetts.

The good news is, we have a ton of options. Let's just hope the new FO makes the right decisions. Griff blew me away with his Lakers deal so I hope he continues to knock it out the park.
 

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What incentive would the Pelicans have to play nice with the Lakers? We bet on their ineptitude and have a lot of stake in them failing, especially in the future. Pelinka was in way over his head and we should let him drown.
There was a report that Pelinka didn't know about the significance of the dates when making the deal, which is why they're now scrambling. Apparently, they don't employ a cap guru either so I tend to believe the report. If that's true, that's mind-boggling. With all the money that's being thrown around, you CANNOT make that mistake.
 

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There was a report that Pelinka didn't know about the significance of the dates when making the deal, which is why they're now scrambling. Apparently, they don't employ a cap guru either so I tend to believe the report. If that's true, that's mind-boggling. With all the money that's being thrown around, you CANNOT make that mistake.
 

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What incentive would the Pelicans have to play nice with the Lakers?
absolutely none, Didn't Gayle Benson say AD to L.A. over my dead body? I don't believe the pels play nice and give the shaft to the Lakers. The longer they stay bad, the higher the picks we get. I personally love it. We pulled off the NFL version of the Herschel Walker
trade.
 

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When you watch Darius Garland play, it's easy to see his "sky's the limit" potential. He's got a great handle and is a pure shooter. He has to get a lot stronger though and that's not always a given. His decision making is questionable at times, leading to many live ball turnovers and easy transition baskets. While he could certainly figure this all out at the next level, he could also end up being a Lou Williams, 6th man, instant offense guy.

That's not a bad thing, but this draft is a lot deeper than some are making it out to be. DeAndre Hunter was the difference between being upset by a 16 seed and winning a national championship. It's the Kawhi effect. When you know you have the best player on the floor, you play better. So guys like Jerome and Guy who are role players at the next level at best, can shine like stars in college. That's what got Kyle Lowry over the hump this year.

Hunter is 6'8", 225 lbs. He has a 7'+ wingspan and is STRONG. He has a high basketball IQ, knows where he is on the court at all times and can be a ferocious defender. His offensive game needs polishing, but there isn't anything he can't do yet. He can score in the post, he shot 44% from three and 78% from the free throw line. He's the closest thing to Kawhi (#15 pick) since Kawhi.

If Jarrett Culver can continue to fill out his 6'7" frame, he can be a great wing at the next level. Athletic, long, good shooter, plus defender.

I have all of these guys ahead of RJ Barrett. I even think Cam Reddish will be a better pro than RJ when it's all said and done. If Cam would've went to a different school, he'd likely be in the lottery discussion. He had to play as the third option, when he's been the first option all is life. He's a much better defender than RJ. When Zion went out and more of the offense ran through Cam, his numbers were much higher.

RJ is made for NY. Big numbers on a bad team type of guy. There is no question the physical tools are there, but his lack of awareness is alarming. He was typically not defending the opponents' best players and still wasn't overly impressive as a defender. There are times that he's completely lost on the floor and he ball watches defensively. Super teams in college should win championships, not miss the final four. Zion was dominant. Cam was forced to come off the bench, which was also new to him. RJ just doesn't make enough winning plays.

I know all this may sound crazy because it goes against most of what you read or hear about this draft, but when the Raptors win a championship without a single lottery pick on their roster, you realize draft position doesn't mean anything. For every AD, there are more Anthony Bennetts.

The good news is, we have a ton of options. Let's just hope the new FO makes the right decisions. Griff blew me away with his Lakers deal so I hope he continues to knock it out the park.
That was a good read, thanks for the info (I didn't watch as much college basketball this year as I usually do).

Yeah, that's certainly what I gather about Garland. His potential and shooting ability are clear, but we haven't seen any consistency out of him (largely because he got hurt so early).

I would not be upset about taking Hunter at all. His shot might be a little slow right now, and he can stand to improve his dribble-driving, but he is definitely a good shooter and a hard worker. As you said, there isn't much that he is not good at, and he has the physical skills to match up with a lot of different players. I like him a lot.

I'm a little less sold on Culver, but I wouldn't hate the pick or anything. I'll root for RJ Barret if he winds up a Pelican, and he definitely has size and potential, but I'm not a huge fan of taking him (I hate the trade up to get RJ rumors- which I don't believe).
 

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When you watch Darius Garland play, it's easy to see his "sky's the limit" potential. He's got a great handle and is a pure shooter. He has to get a lot stronger though and that's not always a given. His decision making is questionable at times, leading to many live ball turnovers and easy transition baskets. While he could certainly figure this all out at the next level, he could also end up being a Lou Williams, 6th man, instant offense guy.

That's not a bad thing, but this draft is a lot deeper than some are making it out to be. DeAndre Hunter was the difference between being upset by a 16 seed and winning a national championship. It's the Kawhi effect. When you know you have the best player on the floor, you play better. So guys like Jerome and Guy who are role players at the next level at best, can shine like stars in college. That's what got Kyle Lowry over the hump this year.

Hunter is 6'8", 225 lbs. He has a 7'+ wingspan and is STRONG. He has a high basketball IQ, knows where he is on the court at all times and can be a ferocious defender. His offensive game needs polishing, but there isn't anything he can't do yet. He can score in the post, he shot 44% from three and 78% from the free throw line. He's the closest thing to Kawhi (#15 pick) since Kawhi.

If Jarrett Culver can continue to fill out his 6'7" frame, he can be a great wing at the next level. Athletic, long, good shooter, plus defender.

I have all of these guys ahead of RJ Barrett. I even think Cam Reddish will be a better pro than RJ when it's all said and done. If Cam would've went to a different school, he'd likely be in the lottery discussion. He had to play as the third option, when he's been the first option all is life. He's a much better defender than RJ. When Zion went out and more of the offense ran through Cam, his numbers were much higher.

RJ is made for NY. Big numbers on a bad team type of guy. There is no question the physical tools are there, but his lack of awareness is alarming. He was typically not defending the opponents' best players and still wasn't overly impressive as a defender. There are times that he's completely lost on the floor and he ball watches defensively. Super teams in college should win championships, not miss the final four. Zion was dominant. Cam was forced to come off the bench, which was also new to him. RJ just doesn't make enough winning plays.

I know all this may sound crazy because it goes against most of what you read or hear about this draft, but when the Raptors win a championship without a single lottery pick on their roster, you realize draft position doesn't mean anything. For every AD, there are more Anthony Bennetts.

The good news is, we have a ton of options. Let's just hope the new FO makes the right decisions. Griff blew me away with his Lakers deal so I hope he continues to knock it out the park.

I am a Hunter fan. He might not be more than a 3 & D to start with but I think he could be a very good pro, and right now a solid 3 &D would be very, very useful around Zion
 

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Not a fan of this potential trade; #4 for Robert Covington & #11....

Covington to me is in that like "mediocre starter / good bench" gray area, I'd rather go with Hunter because I think Hunter can be that this season with the upside in the future to be special.
 

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