Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah has a heart condition. (1 Viewer)

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The SSF draft experts insist they know better than the scouts and the GM, but maybe it's not true. Maybe the professional football team actually does know more than guys on the internet. Maybe that is why we didn't take this guy or some other guy during the draft. Flame away arm chair GMs, this one is for you.

 
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Since he was medically cleared, it seems the guy must be fine to play, and I hope he never has any issue. That said, I can only imagine what the response would have been had we found out we drafted a player with a heart issue, and I can see where teams would shy away, especially early. I get the point of the thread. There's things that go on that we can't know about, so sometimes you just have to hope that the best decisions were made.
 

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No one doubts that every NFL has 20 times more information on draft-eligible players than the general public--especially the background and medical information-- though increasingly a substantial amount of information on day one and day two players is available to the general public.

Regarding JOK, I started a thread Friday as to why he was still on the board because it seemed based on talent and skill-set he should have been picked in the first round. If a medical reason was the reason for some teams, we now know the reason.

However, often fan criticism of what players a team drafts is based on judgment, not on ignorance of inside information.
 

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So many fans jump to conclusions so much you would think this was an aerobics class.
 

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It is interesting to note that NFL.com separates edge rushers from DEs in their prospects res kings while others draft sites don’t. With that distinction Turner was rank no 1 amongst DEs. The discussion should possibly center on whether the Saints thought they were getting a DE or an edge rusher. Secondly, is there truly a difference between the two positions?
 

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It was reported that at the very end leading up to the draft the heart condition was removed.

Smells of a league set up.
 

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This explains why he dropped. Would have still liked him in the 2nd round but hopefully the condition is nothing serious. We saw what it did to Nick Fairley.
 

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Ehhhh.....kinda hard not to jump to conclusions in the heat of the draft if all information isn’t present.

That's the point. Despite this, people do jump to conclusions and go off on rants without having all the information. You do you, but it frankly makes those ranting look foolish.
 

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Nick Fairley had a heart condition. It was missed until he made it to NOLA.

The long snapper from Philly had a heart condition too. That was a few years ago.
 

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It was reported that at the very end leading up to the draft the heart condition was removed.

Smells of a league set up.
For what purpose?

I mean, given that we know that without the Combine, medical information was coming in late to teams. (payton said that Turner was only medically cleared right before the draft), it's entirely believable that something as complex and serious as clearance to play with a heart condition might not become known until just before the draft.
 

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That's the point. Despite this, people do jump to conclusions and go off on rants without having all the information. You do you, but it frankly makes those ranting look foolish.
And chastising people for exuding passion and melting is a foolish action as well. When people melt during draft time, just let them vent, and get it out. Maybe in time, they will grow to like a player/players, or feel better about what transpired. In a perfect world, fans would have all of the information that teams have, and a draft would make everyone happy. We don’t live in that world. If anyone signs up for a fan forum, then they should expect people to disagree with them, annoy them, and share a difference of opinion. As of right now, no one is right about the draft. The results has yet to come to fruition. Everyone has the right to express their opinion.
 

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And chastising people for exuding passion and melting is a foolish action as well. When people melt during draft time, just let them vent, and get it out. Maybe in time, they will grow to like a player/players, or feel better about what transpired. In a perfect world, fans would have all of the information that teams have, and a draft would make everyone happy. We don’t live in that world. If anyone signs up for a fan forum, then they should expect people to disagree with them, annoy them, and share a difference of opinion. As of right now, no one is right about the draft. The results has yet to come to fruition. Everyone has the right to express their opinion.

The problem comes in when those people go into every thread posting doom and gloom, making it impossible to have a real discussion about the picks. This is supposed to be fun and entertaining, it's not when people go off ranting about picks with the knowledge that they don't have all the information to judge the pick.
 
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The problem comes in when those people go into every thread posting doom and gloom, making it impossible to have a real discussion about the picks. This is supposed to be fun and entertaining, it's not when people go off ranting about picks with the knowledge that they don't have all the information to judge the pick.
And not only that, but at times some SSF members slander the people making those decisions as stupid or incompetent. Teams do not make draft picks based on the medias big board or based on fans whims. They make picks based on their own internal deliberations about potential, value and need. They know the current roster better than any of us. They have health histories, practice tape, know the personalities, etc of every player on the roster and know what they can and can't do. They know what types of players fit their schemes and what players don't. Most of what happens on SSF on draft weekend is regurgitation of media opinions and youtube evaluation that is of very little value.
 

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The problem comes in when those people go into every thread posting doom and gloom, making it impossible to have a real discussion about the picks. This is supposed to be fun and entertaining, it's not when people go off ranting about picks with the knowledge that they don't have all the information to judge the pick.
In addition, those doom and gloomers post the same info over and over and over again. Then if you like the pick or even have a wait and see approach, they tell you that you have your lips firmly attached to the backside of the front office.

No one who points out that this medical condition or that medical concern is why some fell in the draft is wishing any harm to that player. In fact, I bet those posted probably hope that the plate makes a full recovery. They are just pointing out logical reasons to all those negative posters.
 

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that all the novice mock drafts are about is for posters to be able to say "I called it", so they can look good and fashion themselves as an internet scout or something. When the pick cuts against their call, then they feel a responsibility to defend their position and poke holes in the pick. The reality is pretty much what everyone seems to agree on, the fans are not scouts and don't have the information. When done in fun, "calling it" can be enjoyable, but when it becomes a status establishing endeavor, an ego builder, it's not. My advice, have fun with it and let it play out, because thats what needs to happen before anyone knows who was right or not.

I'm not a "mock drafter" but I remember being highly critical of the Rick Leonard pick. I know I probably ruffled some feathers. Well, I was right. But guess what? I've been wrong a million other times about players who have worked out. Being right once is like winning once at the casino and bragging about it, but not telling everyone about the other 2 dozen times you went and gave it all back, and then some.
 

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