Jimmy Carter Enters Hospice Care at Home {Edit: Rosalynn Carter has passed (11/19/2023)} (1 Viewer)

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No, no, he's still not gone yet, as far as I know; but I wanted to share this I just found on you tube. It's rough to watch but very, very informative!


 
Madmarsha said:
No, no, he's still not gone yet, as far as I know; but I wanted to share this I just found on you tube. It's rough to watch but very, very informative!


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The worst thing about witnessing death is praying that the person you love will die quicker.
And that's all I have to say about that.
 
Nisey55 said:
The worst thing about witnessing death is praying that the person you love will die quicker.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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Yeah, I get that. There comes a time where it's finally a relief as actively dying is no qualify of life.
 
Madmarsha said:
No, no, he's still not gone yet, as far as I know; but I wanted to share this I just found on you tube. It's rough to watch but very, very informative!


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Hospice likes to declare that their overuse of narcotics to "make the dying comfortable." This has been argued they are practicing what others claim to be passive euthanasia. The organ systems have shut down so the morphine/codeine derivatives are not metabolized and hasten the dying process by a few days or even a week. The dying individual often exhibits no sign of pain and the labored breathing is often exacerbated by the very narcotics they are administering.
Their are people who hold strong religious and/or moral beliefs that another human should not be influencing the cause of death on another human. Too many don't specify in advanced directives whether they want hospice involvement in their dying process and the decision is left to POA's or the children.
 
where yat brah said:
Too many don't specify in advanced directives whether they want hospice involvement in their dying process and the decision is left to POA's or the children.
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Indeed, when the person hasn't expressed their wishes, it makes it so difficult to try to discern what their wishes are. Which is bad enough. But on top of that, you feel the weight of making "life or death" decisions.

But here's the thing I realized. Once you've agonized and made the decisions and you're left with watching your loved one go through the "actively dying" process, suddenly you realize you're not the one in control of deciding the timeline of life or death after all.

I've been through the hospice situation a couple times and know a couple RNs who used to be in the industry. There are good companies and bad ones so you really have to learn how to be the best advocate for your loved one, but you also have to understand what hospice really is and what it isn't .... at the worst possible time. But bottom line is it's palliation, not euthanasia.
 
where yat brah said:
Hospice likes to declare that their overuse of narcotics to "make the dying comfortable." This has been argued they are practicing what others claim to be passive euthanasia. The organ systems have shut down so the morphine/codeine derivatives are not metabolized and hasten the dying process by a few days or even a week. The dying individual often exhibits no sign of pain and the labored breathing is often exacerbated by the very narcotics they are administering.
Their are people who hold strong religious and/or moral beliefs that another human should not be influencing the cause of death on another human. Too many don't specify in advanced directives whether they want hospice involvement in their dying process and the decision is left to POA's or the children.
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My father had a Do not Resuscitate directive, of his own choosing. I found out that this does not apply to EMS support. He had had dementia for 4 or 5 years, congestive heart failure and then broke his hip. After surgery he is sent him to nursing home for "rehab" which in his mental state ain't happening. 2 days later we get a call that the ambulance is bringing him to ER, 5 minutes away. They kept him in the ambulance for 30-45 minutes trying to bring him back. My poor Mom and I waited for about 2 hours before a Dr. comes to ask my mother if she wants him taken off of the ventilator. Why did she have to make that decision? She wants to see him first, so did I, no one can convince me that he was alive, all they were doing was pushing air into his lungs.
I will never forget my mother's anguish at having to make a decision that he had already made. The hospital did not honor his DNR.
I could on but in certain situations hospice is much more humane choice than forcing people to stay alive with endless medications, invasive procedures and just in general making their life more uncomfortable.
 
He's been on deaths door for awhile now and still won't disclose why he cried when he was briefed by people in the know about UFO's within the us gov.
 
Nisey55 said:
The worst thing about witnessing death is praying that the person you love will die quicker.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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Just went through this with my mom. Had a family member ( charismatic Christian) go so far as to accuse my brother and me of killing her by giving her the recommended pain management.
I have no guilt, even if it sped up the dying process at the end. it was time.
 
Nisey55 said:
My father had a Do not Resuscitate directive, of his own choosing. I found out that this does not apply to EMS support. He had had dementia for 4 or 5 years, congestive heart failure and then broke his hip. After surgery he is sent him to nursing home for "rehab" which in his mental state ain't happening. 2 days later we get a call that the ambulance is bringing him to ER, 5 minutes away. They kept him in the ambulance for 30-45 minutes trying to bring him back. My poor Mom and I waited for about 2 hours before a Dr. comes to ask my mother if she wants him taken off of the ventilator. Why did she have to make that decision? She wants to see him first, so did I, no one can convince me that he was alive, all they were doing was pushing air into his lungs.
I will never forget my mother's anguish at having to make a decision that he had already made. The hospital did not honor his DNR.
I could on but in certain situations hospice is much more humane choice than forcing people to stay alive with endless medications, invasive procedures and just in general making their life more uncomfortable.
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Amen.
 
Sailorsaint said:
I dread every time this thread pops to the top of the page.
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I know. I can't obvs. alter the thread title and I didn't want start a new thread; but not everyone was catching on real quick that it was fake. I nearly fell for it.
 
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