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This is probably a shot in the dark but it can't hurt. I hope it's OK to post on this forum instead of the business forum as I'm not sure how much traffic that one gets.

Anyway, if you're an Oracle programmer (forms,reports,PL/SQL) and are willing to relocate to No Alabama, then PM me.

If you have Java skills and have a security clearance, you will be given priority.
 

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north bama?? i'd understand trying to entice outsiders to move in for that job.. anyway to work V.O. and not move to bama?
it's not like java won't run anywhere...
 
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Naah. This position requires lots of customer interaction in addition to the programming.

For a geek, it's hard to beat this part of the country though. It's one of the high-tech hubs of the country and is booming. I'm originally from the coast and certainly miss it, but in terms of quality of life it's hard to beat this area. There's about 1/4 million people in the metro area, low traffic, low crime, high median salary, clean, and consistently in the rankings of best places to live in America. There's a large NASA presence and the Missile Defense Agency is relocating much of it's work from DC due to BRAC. For engineers and software geeks, this place is terrific.
 

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you referring to huntsville then?
 
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i wasnt' thinking huntsville in the prior post.. forgot about it till your response..

that reference to knowing java being a plus... using jpa, hibernate, or straight jdbc?
 
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The job is to maintain legacy code developed using Oracle Forms/Reports. That is the absolute number one priority for this position and I'd be doing my customer a disservice if I didn't bring someone in with a forms/reports background.

I'm trying to create an environment of change and begin migrating our code to Java, thus the addendum that Java knowledge is a "plus". Some of our customer base isn't satisfied with the interface (look/feel) of the Oracle forms environment. If you've developed forms applications you undoubtedly know what I'm talking about. Plus it requires a client piece, in our environment the Sun JRE, which can be a hassle to deal with and in some quarters reinforces the idea that our staff aren't true web programmers.

Much of my time is spent as DBA for several databases and Oracle application servers so I don't write as much code as I'd like. My databases support 2 application suites. One is developed in .Net and is a critical and highly visible application within MDA, the other is a forms/reports suite used in the Army and MDA that has seen it's better days.

In an effort to inspire the staff, I've written and deployed some simple apps using JSPs and servlets. Nothing fancy. My desire is to hire a hot-shot programmer well-versed in forms/reports but with the gumption and patience to help lead the team to more modern programming.

Hope this makes sense.
 

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doesn't sound like i'd be what you'd need.. but this info would help being out for other prospective candidates out here.. have a few developers on here.
I'm just getting my feet wet really with java/jsp, and have been doing .net for a bit, mostly webform.
I'm probably best served staying with where I'm currently, as long as I can hang on to it.
 

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I am a java/jsp guy but I am not looking for a job. I just wanted to post on here and tell you that maybe you need to look for a java guy who can learn the oracle form/reports instead of one that already knows it.

The reason I say that is because all hot shot java geeks that i know do not have a ton of knowledge or oracle forms/reports. I have some standard knowledge and could probably work my way through it but that is about it. Java geeks like me like to stay on top of the cutting edge stuff out there and oracle form/reports just doesnt do it for us.

Huntsville is a great place though and I know a few guys that I went to college with that are up there. You should be able to find someone fairly easy.

IF you really want to impress your clients I would stay away from JSP if you can and look at some of the JAVA web frameworks. I am just learning about one myself called wicket and it is awesome. It allows you to write pure java code and pure html markup and it uses tags in the html markup and java code to merge the 2 together. It does all the heavy lifting for you and it is really neat. It is much better than writing in JSP and having to add all kinds of messy javascript to my code and mixing your JSP with your html code. wicket handles all of that kind of stuff for me. There are a bunch of different frameworks out there that are good and each one is a little different and may serve your needs better.

Anyway just a suggestion.
 

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IF you really want to impress your clients I would stay away from JSP if you can and look at some of the JAVA web frameworks. I am just learning about one myself called wicket and it is awesome. It allows you to write pure java code and pure html markup and it uses tags in the html markup and java code to merge the 2 together. It does all the heavy lifting for you and it is really neat. It is much better than writing in JSP and having to add all kinds of messy javascript to my code and mixing your JSP with your html code. wicket handles all of that kind of stuff for me. There are a bunch of different frameworks out there that are good and each one is a little different and may serve your needs better.

What Java/JSP framework or application server have you previously used before Wicket? I know I tried to help you with Tomcat recently, so I'm going to assume that's the application server you use.. But I'm curious why would you HAVE to "add all kinds of messy javascript" to your code for Java/JSPs to work?

And why not use tag libraries that clean up the scriptlet code in JSPs?
 

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What Java/JSP framework or application server have you previously used before Wicket? I know I tried to help you with Tomcat recently, so I'm going to assume that's the application server you use.. But I'm curious why would you HAVE to "add all kinds of messy javascript" to your code for Java/JSPs to work?

And why not use tag libraries that clean up the scriptlet code in JSPs?

was kind of pondering that myself... considering that is the heart of jsp, when combined with struts and such to make only the VIEW in JSP.. it knows nothing of the code in the controller and model...
javascript will have to be there somewhere in the final html given to the client, unless not doing anything with javascript..
I limit what's javascript in my pages for what its worth. Since we have to make sure it will work for those that disable javascript.
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Yeah.. I mean, the essence of Tomcat Java/JSP is that it's server-side code that is simply rendered by the browser upon request.. There is no explicit need for Javascript when coding servlets..

I too try to limit the amount of Javascript in projects for usability purposes and partially b/c I hate Javascript.. But the new object-oriented Javascript libraries (prototype, mootools, jquery) do make things much easier..
 

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I guess I am just not up to speed on the javascript front nor do I want to be because I hate it.

Yes Tomcat is what I am using for development and I have set it up thousands of time. I have no clue why I had such problems with that last install on my laptop. It was a bear to figure out but I am glad I finally got it and thank so much for your help.

The current application I am working on called for a lot of popup and parent communication as well as popups in popups with communication to the parent and limiting things on the popup up based on what was on the parent page and then displaying everything choosen on the popup on the parent page.

This is really my first round with a lot of intense javascript. I barely use it in most of my JSP pages i have written in the past.

After I figured out the way I was going was not the best approuch I started looking into frameworks and that is when I found wicket. It has been great and it handles all the javascript for me so I do not have to write it.

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I guess I am just not up to speed on the javascript front nor do I want to be because I hate it.

Yes Tomcat is what I am using for development and I have set it up thousands of time. I have no clue why I had such problems with that last install on my laptop. It was a bear to figure out but I am glad I finally got it and thank so much for your help.

The current application I am working on called for a lot of popup and parent communication as well as popups in popups with communication to the parent and limiting things on the popup up based on what was on the parent page and then displaying everything choosen on the popup on the parent page.

This is really my first round with a lot of intense javascript. I barely use it in most of my JSP pages i have written in the past.

After I figured out the way I was going was not the best approuch I started looking into frameworks and that is when I found wicket. It has been great and it handles all the javascript for me so I do not have to write it.

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Ok.. I can see the need for Javascript then.. The way you initially described it, I was under the impression that you thought you needed Javascript to be able to do any JSP programming..

You may want to check out ExtJS.. It seems to be a nice Javascript library for creating user interfaces.. Ext JS - JavaScript Library
 

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Ok.. I can see the need for Javascript then.. The way you initially described it, I was under the impression that you thought you needed Javascript to be able to do any JSP programming..

You may want to check out ExtJS.. It seems to be a nice Javascript library for creating user interfaces.. Ext JS - JavaScript Library

Thanks will do

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don't know if possible for doing what you'r doing, taygolf, and sorry for the threadjack..
but a thought i have , for eliminating the "popup" is put div, and set to visible and non-visible with the controller. Not sure how java handles this.. but I know doing it in .net is a snap with the codebehind page and events. Heck, i set whether something comes up or not, or if selections avail or not per query result from the database.
 

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