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I think we need to do what ever it takes to get Burrow. I don’t think it would take a Ditka type trade but we need him.

He checks off every box you could ask a QB to have. He doesn’t get rattled or make bad throws. He knows part of our offense already and executed it to perfection. He broke the record for highest completion percentage in NCAA.

And what ever test they were talking about where they tested the team for reactionary skills and other things he scored in the 90th percentile. He’s is the second coming of Drew and can keep this offense flowing when Drew retires.
 

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No he wouldn't. Name me one time Belichick has EVER done this in the draft. If anything he would trade and stack up additional picks and get a QB in the 3rd round.
I said he would if he could.

He can't because the Bengals probably won't trade away the pick. They need a QB.
 

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I said he would if he could.

He can't because the Bengals probably won't trade away the pick. They need a QB.
And I'm saying even if he could (mortgage away his future for one guy) he wouldn't because he's too smart of a coach/GM to do that. So yeah I disagree.
 

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And I'm saying even if he could (mortgage away his future for one guy) he wouldn't because he's too smart of a coach/GM to do that. So yeah I disagree.
I can never prove Bellichick wants him and you can never prove he doesn't want him because Burrow will (probably) be playing in CIN.

So there's no discussion. I was really alluding to Burrow's Brady vibe, not saying that Bellichick could actually get him.
 

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I can never prove Bellichick wants him and you can never prove he doesn't want him because Burrow will (probably) be playing in CIN.

So there's no discussion. I was really alluding to Burrow's Brady vibe, not saying that Bellichick could actually get him.
I'm sure plenty of coaches want him but he's not worth going from a team competing yearly for Super Bowl's to the Miami Dolphins. I'm sure Belichick wants a ton of WR's out there but we see he didn't make a foolish trade to get one. He's smart.
 

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I know. That's why he drafted Brady, and would draft Burrow if he could. He can't. A year or 2 with few draft picks is well worth getting a young Brady caliber QB.
Yeah and what round did he take Brady in? What round did he take Garoppolo in? How about Brissett? He's proven that he doesn't need the current hit of the week to accomplish what he needs to. I'm sure he wants a Kardashian as well but he's too SMART to mortgage his future for one. Again it's not about what Belichick "wants" it's about the "smart" thing to do.
 

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...until his rookie contract is up, at least. Remember, there's free agency now. It's not like when Archie was stuck playing for the 1970s Saints organization.
Whoever drafts him can lock him in for 6-7 years
 

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Lsu guys just enjoy it!

Let's not hear about all the we gotta get this or that. If you as an lsu get what you want the saints can't get him!

How about just enjoy that lsu has a non prehistorical offense and has already won your Superbowl and beat bama.

How about just enjoy the playoffs?

The kid might be great at the next level he might suck I don't care.

I am glad I don't have to watch horrible lsu offense anymore.
 

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I am glad I don't have to watch horrible lsu offense anymore.

The funny thing to me is that, even with the overlap of a fan base, too many fans still equate running the ball with winning. While a efficient running game is a good thing in terms of keeping a defense off balance, a quality passing game is the key to winning a championship. From two years ago, the LSU offense has seen rushing attempts decline by 154, (552 in both 2017 and 2018 and 398 in 2019) and seen passing attempts increase by 51 over last year and 138 from 2017. And finally the record reflects the talent level of the program.
 

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I really like Joe Burrow...he looks like he has all of the tools to potentially be a successful NFL QB. But he's not Peyton Manning. He's not someone who I have the utmost confidence that he is a lock to be successful at the next level. His sample size is relatively limited. We don't know how he is going to go through progressions and read defenses at the next level. I suspect that he'll be fine, but it's always tough to know for sure. And if you are going to trade away 3 drafts worth of picks (and yes, the bounty would probably be the biggest in NFL history), then you have to be 100% sure that he's going to be a transcendent talent that can singlehandedly win games for you, because that is what he will have to do with the significant loss of draft capital.

I'm not interested in Fromm or Herbert. I think that they both flop in the NFL and I'm not even considering them before the 2nd-3rd round. I honestly don't know much about Eason, I'll have to take a good look at him. I'm not sure what to think about Hurts yet.

I do know that Tua is a good QB. Truth be told, if he was the current LSU QB, everyone on this forum would want him right now...even in spite of the injury concerns. He is a fantastic young QB that is pinpoint accurate, makes smarts decisions, and throws a beautiful deep ball. I think that he is right up there with Burrow. And though he has injury concerns, those injury concerns are the ONLY reason that the Saints may be in a position to get him. Otherwise, I think he likely goes #1 overall. If he slips outside of the top 10, all of a sudden the Saints could have the ammunition to get their franchise QB without completely crippling their future draft assets.
 

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Again it's not about what Belichick "wants" it's about the "smart" thing to do.
All those SB rings say they are 1 and the same. There is not a smarter, wiser coach in the NFL, nor a better one to emulate.

Back when Brady was drafted, there was no one to compare him to. Now we know what a Tom Brady looks like, and the closest thing to him this year is Burrow. No one will pass on him.
 

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I really like Joe Burrow...he looks like he has all of the tools to potentially be a successful NFL QB. But he's not Peyton Manning. He's not someone who I have the utmost confidence that he is a lock to be successful at the next level. His sample size is relatively limited. We don't know how he is going to go through progressions and read defenses at the next level. I suspect that he'll be fine, but it's always tough to know for sure. And if you are going to trade away 3 drafts worth of picks (and yes, the bounty would probably be the biggest in NFL history), then you have to be 100% sure that he's going to be a transcendent talent that can singlehandedly win games for you, because that is what he will have to do with the significant loss of draft capital.

I'm not interested in Fromm or Herbert. I think that they both flop in the NFL and I'm not even considering them before the 2nd-3rd round. I honestly don't know much about Eason, I'll have to take a good look at him. I'm not sure what to think about Hurts yet.

I do know that Tua is a good QB. Truth be told, if he was the current LSU QB, everyone on this forum would want him right now...even in spite of the injury concerns. He is a fantastic young QB that is pinpoint accurate, makes smarts decisions, and throws a beautiful deep ball. I think that he is right up there with Burrow. And though he has injury concerns, those injury concerns are the ONLY reason that the Saints may be in a position to get him. Otherwise, I think he likely goes #1 overall. If he slips outside of the top 10, all of a sudden the Saints could have the ammunition to get their franchise QB without completely crippling their future draft assets.
Totally agree, except to say Burrow is more gritty than Manning and Tua. He's Brady tough and gritty, not afraid to take a hit in exchange for a completed pass. He's smart, uses touch, not ashamed to throw an easy, catchable ball when required, eyes always downfield, has great judgment, the game is not too big for him, can't be intimidated.

I like Tua a lot, but I dread the "too short, too immobile" drone coming from the sports media. If his injury is good, I think he's worth taking a late first - early 2nd on if you're willing to gamble on his health. I don't know if he can fit passes in NFL-tight windows, only seen him play 4-5 times. I would say "probably yes".

EDIT: Don't say "everyone". Burrow is the first LSU QB I have ever wanted, and Tua is the first ALA QB I have ever wanted. I'm sure there are plenty of New Orleans Saints fans that feel the same way.
 
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Totally agree, except to say Burrow is more gritty than Manning and Tua. He's Brady tough and gritty, not afraid to take a hit in exchange for a completed pass. He's smart, uses touch, not ashamed to throw an easy, catchable ball when required, eyes always downfield, has great judgment, the game is not too big for him, can't be intimidated.

I like Tua a lot, but I dread the "too short, too immobile" drone coming from the sports media. If his injury is good, I think he's worth taking a late first - early 2nd on if you're willing to gamble on his health. I don't know if he can fit passes in NFL-tight windows, only see him play 4-5 times. I would say "probably yes".
I really like Burrow. He does remind me of Brady in his posture and release. Of course it’s tough to compare any college player to an NFL legend, just like it is likely pointless to try to find the collegiate version of Drew Brees.

I don’t have any concern about Tuas size or immobility. I think that he had good mobility. Clearly, he’s not Vick/Jackson but he reminds me a little of Aaron Rodgers in his ability to get out of the pocket and throw the ball downfield with accuracy. He has superb accuracy, a good arm, makes good decisions, has A+ character and work ethic, and can literally make every throw. Payton would love him. My only concern is his injuries...and it’s a real concern. ButI’d rather take the chance on injuries than risk on questionable talent. The talent is unquestionable here.
 

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