Kerry blasts Bill Clinton for 'abusing truth' (1 Viewer)

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WASHINGTON (CNN) — John Kerry, the Democratic Party's 2004 nominee for president, took aim at Bill Clinton Friday, telling the National Journal the former president does "not have a license to abuse the truth."

The Massachusetts senator, who endorsed Barack Obama's White House bid earlier this month, said Clinton's criticisms of the Illinois senator have been "over the top," and suggested the former president is getting "frantic."

Targeting Clinton's recent spate of attacks on Obama, Kerry said, "I think you had an abuse of the truth, is what happened. …I mean, being an ex-president does not give you license to abuse the truth, and I think that over the last days it's been over the top.


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Well, it's working. Apparently, white support for Obama has dropped. He entered South Carolina the greatest orator of his generation, Ivy league law graduate and first minority head of the Harvard Law Review. A classmate of his penciled in his margin after meeting him, "future president". An embodiment of the American dream, author of two best seller biographies, and in my estimation, the best Democratic candidate vision-wise since RFK.

In two weeks, Bill Clinton transformed him into just another negro.

:=(
 

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Well, it's working. Apparently, white support for Obama has dropped. He entered South Carolina the greatest orator of his generation, Ivy league law graduate and first minority head of the Harvard Law Review. A classmate of his penciled in his margin after meeting him, "future president". An embodiment of the American dream, author of two best seller biographies, and in my estimation, the best Democratic candidate vision-wise since RFK.

In two weeks, Bill Clinton transformed him into just another negro.

:=(
All while truly changing the Hillary 08 to Billary 08, a nice twofer
 

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All while truly changing the Hillary 08 to Billary 08, a nice twofer
Good point. It's really interesting to hear this dynamic play out in some of his campaign speeches. In a way, Hillary's qualifications are basically distilled (and reduced) by him to being a major asset in carrying out his vision while he was in office.
 

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From a purely entertainment perspective, I really hope Bill picks up the gauntlet Sen. Kerry just threw down.

Bill v. Obama is one thing - he's a pretty tough target for Bill to hit without making himself look bad (see: South Carolina, etc.)

However, Bill v. John Kerry is a whole nother thing. Seeing Bill go after Kerry would be highly amusing, though not much of a contest.
 

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Look guys, I am not a Democrat but I must say that I like Obama, he is well versed, has good intentions, and does not leave me with any bad tastes in my mouth. In other words, he is a Democrat I could consider voting for. I think what Hillary is doing is ridiculous. She is showing the side that many people all said she had but was not trying to show. God forbid she and her husband are doing everything possible to get elected or the nomination of her party. I may disagree with Obama on a few things but I like the guy on a personal level. I would not mind him being president at all in fact.
 

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I am a fan of Bill Clinton the President.

I was not a fan of John Kerry the 2004 candidate for the Democratic Party.

That said, if there's two people that need to go away for the Dems, its these two.

I've said it this forum before. We have 28 years of Bushes and Clintons either directly in, or very close to the White House. The White House should not be a legacy.

And John Kerry couldn't unseat Dubya? Yeah, I want THAT to lead the party of my father.

But what the media doesn't want you to know:
http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/
 
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Well, it's working. Apparently, white support for Obama has dropped. He entered South Carolina the greatest orator of his generation, Ivy league law graduate and first minority head of the Harvard Law Review. A classmate of his penciled in his margin after meeting him, "future president". An embodiment of the American dream, author of two best seller biographies, and in my estimation, the best Democratic candidate vision-wise since RFK.

In two weeks, Bill Clinton transformed him into just another negro.

:=(
I just posted similar thoughts in another thread. There can be no doubt that in politics, the candidate(s) with the least amount of shame has (have) the upper hand. No one personifies this theory like the Clintons. In one breath they launch all kinds of half-truths and distortions and in the other breath they attack the media for unfair treatment. Some would say that it's a brilliant strategy, but I would compare it to sex in advertising. There is nothing brilliant about appealing to the lowest common denominator.

There is a famous quote, "“Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.” I think this can easily be applied to politics and the intelligence of the American electorate. Hillary is a qualified candidate, no doubt, but she has run a campaign that embodies the above sentiment.
 

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In two weeks, Bill Clinton transformed him into just another negro.

:=(
Bah, that's no big deal in South Carolina. Chances are the white voters there were already dying for an excuse to apply the reductionist formula on Obama. Slick Willie only had to scratch a little; just a little. Pull that trick off in California, THEN I'll be impressed :covri:

To Senator Obama: if you have another one of those magic speeches in your bag o' tricks, you'll need to whip it out should you win SC. I'm talking about a speech that will conjure up rainbows and make Green Berets weep. And for God's sake, make sure you have plenty of white faces in the background, even if you have to ship 'em in.
 

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Bah, that's no big deal in South Carolina. Chances are the white voters there were already dying for an excuse to apply the reductionist formula on Obama. Slick Willie only had to scratch a little; just a little. Pull that trick off in California, THEN I'll be impressed :covri:

To Senator Obama: if you have another one of those magic speeches in your bag o' tricks, you'll need to whip it out should you win SC. I'm talking about a speech that will conjure up rainbows and make Green Berets weep. And for God's sake, make sure you have plenty of white faces in the background, even if you have to ship 'em in.
I am not even sure that the Clintons are doing it in South Carolina. The white, professional, upper-middle-class, affluent, urban, etc. voter that Obama appeals to are relatively few in number in the South (even in the bigger cities) and those that fit the bill are more likely to be or lean heavily towards Republicans. And I think you have a widespread view in the South, particularly by white male Democrats, that Obama and Hillary are unelectable, and I don;t think the recent acts of the Clintons have any bearing on that. You could have predicted weeks ago - with a good deal of justification - that blacks would break for Obama, that white women would break for Clinton, and that white men would break for Edwards in SC.
 

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I am not even sure that the Clintons are doing it in South Carolina. The white, professional, upper-middle-class, affluent, urban, etc. voter that Obama appeals to are relatively few in number in the South (even in the bigger cities) and those that fit the bill are more likely to be or lean heavily towards Republicans. And I think you have a widespread view in the South, particularly by white male Democrats, that Obama and Hillary are unelectable, and I don;t think the recent acts of the Clintons have any bearing on that. You could have predicted weeks ago - with a good deal of justification - that blacks would break for Obama, that white women would break for Clinton, and that white men would break for Edwards in SC.
Consider: Obama beat Hillary rather handily in the rural parts of Nevada.

The race thing is no big deal in SC. But if Slick Willie adopts the whole "Well, what could we do? All the black folks voted for him" line, it may resonate in other parts of the country. The picture of Obama in Iowa with a bevy of white supporters was immensely powerful, but those images may be fading from peoples' memories. If voters start thinking it's mostly blacks who support him, it will feed into the lone negative perception amongst some that he lacks substance. He needs to recapture his fading transcendency, and fast.
 

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Consider: Obama beat Hillary rather handily in the rural parts of Nevada.

The race thing is no big deal in SC. But if Slick Willie adopts the whole "Well, what could we do? All the black folks voted for him" line, it may resonate in other parts of the country. The picture of Obama in Iowa with a bevy of white supporters was immensely powerful, but those images may be fading from peoples' memories. If voters start thinking it's mostly blacks who support him, it will feed into the lone negative perception amongst some that he lacks substance. He needs to recapture his fading transcendency, and fast.

I don't disagree with you on that. And I am also not following the race as close as others, so I don;t know what is going on behind the scenes with push polls, unidentified fliers, phone calls, etc where a lot of the "disinformation: and stuff happens - but from what I have heard/read I don;t see Bill or Hillary saying things that tend to marginalize Barack as THE black candidate.
 

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