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Did anybody else go yesterday? There's another day of it today at the Cajundome.

The kids and I went and we had a blast. They got to see Jeremy Bulloch (Boba Fett), Ernie Hudson (Ghostbusters), and Steve Cardenas (the red Power Ranger). It was their first time at a comic con. If you haven't gone before and are in the area, I recommend it. We spent the day. The environment was extremely friendly. We'll be going again next year.
 
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I see Wizard World New Orleans just updated their guest list. It's okay, but nothing earth shattering. Nobody that makes me say, "Ohhh, I'm buying my tickets now."
 

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I see Wizard World New Orleans just updated their guest list. It's okay, but nothing earth shattering. Nobody that makes me say, "Ohhh, I'm buying my tickets now."
Agreed, especially considering a minimum of 10% will cancel. And still no creators of any worth.
 
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So, we've got some updates:

Louisiana CC just announced Edward Furlong, which is pretty good for T2 fans. I'm still most excited for C.J. Graham (Jason part 6).

Wizard World N.O announced some other guests who are mostly meh. For a major con that's about a month and a half away, it is extremely lackluster. https://wizardworld.com/comiccon/new-orleans

Nothing from Big Easy Con, but that one's not until June, so it's still early.
 

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So, we've got some updates:

Louisiana CC just announced Edward Furlong, which is pretty good for T2 fans. I'm still most excited for C.J. Graham (Jason part 6).

Wizard World N.O announced some other guests who are mostly meh. For a major con that's about a month and a half away, it is extremely lackluster. https://wizardworld.com/comiccon/new-orleans

Nothing from Big Easy Con, but that one's not until June, so it's still early.
Yeah. I called out Wizard World the other day one Facebook. Think I might do the same on Twitter next. Lackluster doesn't describe the current lineup.
 

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Wizard World N.O announced some other guests who are mostly meh. For a major con that's about a month and a half away, it is extremely lackluster. https://wizardworld.com/comiccon/new-orleans
So far, Wizard World New Orleans celebrity list is looking like it's gearing strongly toward television popular with women. My wife will go anywhere Ian Somerhalder (Vampire Diaries) and Matt Ryan (Constantine) are appearing. The appearances of the other Vampire Diaries stars is more icing on the cake. She's also big on iZombie and Outlander (though the latter really needs the principals to appear, not the third-tier actors).

On the other hand, there's almost no one from contemporary sci-fi/fantasy films. Very TV-heavy ... a lot like the 2017 WW N.O. con.
 

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TV personalities, even big ones, are way cheaper to book. Especially if you're a CW actor. Not bashing that channel as I enjoy several shows on it, but it's an interesting place where many of the shows have rabid fanbases and will draw attendees to cons, but it's still very niche and they can get the actors cheaper. But Wizard World going cheap is just further proof of their imminent demise. Again, hoping Big Easy Con takes off. WW can pound sand.

Edward Furlong is a disaster of a human being. A literal junkie who last I saw looked to be pushing 300+lbs and like he hadn't slept or showered in days. But he's got name value. They also just announced Kel Mitchell. It's a nostalgia thing, but he at least had some geek cred with Mystery Men. I'm most excited about Tim Rose (Admiral Ackbar) and CJ Graham (trying to get all my Jasons taken care of). They're relying a bit less on their circuit guests this time and bringing in some newer names, which is good. Less power rangers this go round, please.
 

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Wizard World has two of them coming :unsure:
All the more reason I'm not going. I just can't deal. Or am I, as a comics guy, asking too much?

I've already resigned myself to the thought that if I want to attend a true comic convention, I'll be going to either Charlotte (HeroesCon), Baltimore, or to NYCC. I don't even have a desire to go to SDCC anymore.
 
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The kids and I took a little trip to Lafayette today and hit up the comic book store. Well, they had the latest poster for LACC and all of the people already mentioned were on it, but looks like Denise Crosby will be there, as she was front and center on the poster. Look for her to be announced shortly. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that they can get Linda Blair back for this show. Hopefully we get a few other good announcements between now and then.
 

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All the more reason I'm not going. I just can't deal. Or am I, as a comics guy, asking too much?

I've already resigned myself to the thought that if I want to attend a true comic convention, I'll be going to either Charlotte (HeroesCon), Baltimore, or to NYCC. I don't even have a desire to go to SDCC anymore.
SDCC has no identity anymore. And it has been declining in attendance for a few years now, especially since the movie studios pulled out. It's mostly just TV now. SDCC has never released official attendance numbers, but numbers have always come out through unofficial channels, usually as PR brag pieces in San Diego media. This year? Crickets. It's very telling. It wouldn't shock me if they finally dipped below 130k this year. That's off their high of 167k several years ago. They sold their soul to Hollywood to become this major annual entertainment mecca, but now that Hollywood turned their back on them they don't know what they are anymore. Want to go see a panel with the cast of Suits on USA? Well, SDCC has you covered, I guess, but don't go looking for comic books because despite the name this convention has fork all to do with comics anymore.

NYCC is the hot new thing, and much more of a comic convention than SDCC has been in at least a decade. Their attendance has climbed while SDCC's has dropped. Not hard to see which way the wind is blowing. SDCC is yesterday's news, clinging to past reputation but in clear decline.
 

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SDCC has no identity anymore. And it has been declining in attendance for a few years now, especially since the movie studios pulled out. It's mostly just TV now. SDCC has never released official attendance numbers, but numbers have always come out through unofficial channels, usually as PR brag pieces in San Diego media. This year? Crickets. It's very telling. It wouldn't shock me if they finally dipped below 130k this year. That's off their high of 167k several years ago. They sold their soul to Hollywood to become this major annual entertainment mecca, but now that Hollywood turned their back on them they don't know what they are anymore. Want to go see a panel with the cast of Suits on USA? Well, SDCC has you covered, I guess, but don't go looking for comic books because despite the name this convention has fork all to do with comics anymore.

NYCC is the hot new thing, and much more of a comic convention than SDCC has been in at least a decade. Their attendance has climbed while SDCC's has dropped. Not hard to see which way the wind is blowing. SDCC is yesterday's news, clinging to past reputation but in clear decline.
Totally agree.
 

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That's a dam shame to hear about San Diego Comic Con. One of my family's bucket list trips. A buddy at work went with his family in 2013 (by train!) and had a blast.

Why would the movie studios pull out of that event? Are they just doing fewer conventions in general, or was there something going on with SDCC?
 

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That's a dam shame to hear about San Diego Comic Con. One of my family's bucket list trips. A buddy at work went with his family in 2013 (by train!) and had a blast.

Why would the movie studios pull out of that event? Are they just doing fewer conventions in general, or was there something going on with SDCC?
Long story short, the rise and fall of the movie studios at SDCC begins and ends with Jon Favreau.

When the original Iron Man became a massive hit, Favreau really sold the reaction it got in Hall H at SDCC as helping generate early buzz. He kind of became an evangelist for the idea that the studios should go in heavy at SDCC and get the early geek buzz for movies. And they pretty much bought in wholesale, with Hollywood basically taking over SDCC after that. Attendance skyrocketed, and what had once been a comic convention became the place to see the biggest celebrities, get the first (and exclusive) look at the biggest upcoming movies, etc.

But while this worked for a while, the studios eventually began to question how valuable it really was as a marketing tool (which is all they ever saw it as). The news cycle during SDCC was rapid fire, so a big movie's time in the spotlight was only until the next Hall H panel happened, and things got lost in the shuffle. Additionally, it was said that a lot of Hollywood types (and stars) hated having to pack up to go to San Diego for the weekend, as they saw it as a hassle more than anything. And over time, the marketing departments began to wonder if catering to the geek crowd was paying any dividends. Apparently running panels at SDCC wasn't cheap when you had to accommodate a bunch of big stars, which led to the bills piling up.

The death knell came with Favreau's Cowboys and Aliens. He again went to Hall H to recapture the Iron Man magic, and the movie got a pretty good reception in Hall H. Then it went on and bombed horribly in theaters. So this pretty much led to the studio executives saying "We're wasting our time and money doing this. A movie getting a good reception in Hall H indicates nothing about what it will actually do in theaters." and they started scaling back substantially in the years after that. It was just one or two studios at first, and it was usually a shocked headline like "Studio X skipping SDCC this year! Why would they do that!?" then more and more studios started skipping and it just became common place.

Also contributing to this was Disney basically pulling out completely to hold their own conventions where they would be the only one in the news cycle. Between D23 and Star Wars Celebration, they decided they didn't need SDCC anymore and could recreate that same circus with themselves as the only focus. The studios had been abandoning it for a while, but once Disney said "Marvel and Star Wars won't be there, they have their own dedicated conventions now," that was pretty much it.
 
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Sun, where do you get all of this knowledge from man? I've said it before and I'll say it again....you need to open up a comic book shop in central Louisiana. I would be a regular. :)
 

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Sun, where do you get all of this knowledge from man? I've said it before and I'll say it again....you need to open up a comic book shop in central Louisiana. I would be a regular. :)
If you follow a lot of the right sites and podcasts, a good bit of the pieces are out there. Hall H has been going down a while. I follow several podcasts that used to do live broadcasts from SDCC, but don't anymore because of a lot of what Sun has talked about and then some. Seems the East Coast cons are the way to go if you're a true comic enthusiast, especially HeroesCon and NYCC (I plan on going to one, if not both, in 2019).

I will say this though... Sun be dropping some knowledge that even I haven't heard of and I've been collecting since I was 9. :worthy:
 

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