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Looks like Charlie Cox will be Daredevil in the new Spider-man movie but it’s not the same version as the Netflix series

That movie is shaping up to be potentially very unwieldy. They're bringing back basically the main casts of the Raimi Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man films. Now this. Plus lots of other rumors (Sinister Six, Kraven) that have yet to be confirmed. Seems like an absurd amount to cram in a two hour runtime.
 

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That movie is shaping up to be potentially very unwieldy. They're bringing back basically the main casts of the Raimi Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man films. Now this. Plus lots of other rumors (Sinister Six, Kraven) that have yet to be confirmed. Seems like an absurd amount to cram in a two hour runtime.
Agreed. And I don't know how to feel about a Charlie Cox Daredevil that isn't Netflix Daredevil.
 

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That movie is shaping up to be potentially very unwieldy. They're bringing back basically the main casts of the Raimi Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man films. Now this. Plus lots of other rumors (Sinister Six, Kraven) that have yet to be confirmed. Seems like an absurd amount to cram in a two hour runtime.
Yea that was the downfall of Rami's Spiderman 3... too many plot points to shape up any one of them. Plus, they tried to go back and change good plot points of the previous movies into bad plot points for 3 (Sandman vs Uncle Ben). But I agree, I hate when they try to cram too much into one movie. That's why the MCU worked so well because they were able to tell stories in multiple movies instead of cramming it all into one.

Into the Spiderverse gives me some hope, but it also didn't try to cram too many bad guys into one movie when it already had too man good guys to cram in.
 

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Just thinking out loud, I can see how Doc Oct's experimental reactor and Electro's substation feeding powers can be used to pull each one of those timelines into a shared universe. Also, we have to remember that the MCU Spiderman series left off with his identity being revealed to the world. Having another Spiderman show up that's not him could help put that to rest.
 

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Not gonna lie...none of this excites me. Feels like a jumbled mess.
I'm in the same boat. It doesn't even feel coherent. It[s like they saw how well Into the Spider-Verse worked and took the wrong lessons.

Oh, and that's another rumor: Miles Morales popping up in this.
 

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I have a feeling a lot of the rumours about this film are just that: rumours. Frankly, they lost me when they said Andrew Garfield and Tobey McGuire will appear. That's a red flag to me that possibly the entire story is speculative nonsense. I don't think Kevin Feige is stupid enough to allow a hodge-podge like that to be thrown together.

Plus, what the heck does "Daredevil who isn't the Netflix Daredevil" even mean? I'm taking all of this with a big grain of salt. However, I am hopeful Charlie Cox as DD actually is in the next Spiderman movie. They should be paired together as they often have been in the comics. That's just how the Marvel NYC should work.
 

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My hope if these rumors are true is that there are going to be a lot of introductions, but more as a cameo, while maintaining a coherent central plot. I don't think that would be hard to do, but they obviously need to be very thoughtful in how they do it.
 

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However, I am hopeful Charlie Cox as DD actually is in the next Spiderman movie. They should be paired together as they often have been in the comics. That's just how the Marvel NYC should work.
I think a movie with Spider-man, DD and Punisher would be pretty awesome if it's used to highlight Peter's moral compass.
 

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I have a feeling a lot of the rumours about this film are just that: rumours. Frankly, they lost me when they said Andrew Garfield and Tobey McGuire will appear. That's a red flag to me that possibly the entire story is speculative nonsense. I don't think Kevin Feige is stupid enough to allow a hodge-podge like that to be thrown together.

Plus, what the heck does Daredevil who isn't the Netflix Daredevil even mean? I'm taking all of this with a big grain of salt. However, I am hopeful Charlie Cox as DD actually is in the next Spiderman movie. They should be paired together as they often have been in the comics. That's just how the Marvel NYC should work.
Nope, not rumors. Garfield, Alfred Molina, Jamie Foxx, and Kiersten Dunst are already confirmed, signed sealed and delivered. Officially announced cast members by the major trades. Word is Maguire should be announced soon, and they're bringing back Emma Stone to reprise Gwen Stacy from the ASM movies, as well. This is 100% happening for real.
 

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Nope, not rumors. Garfield, Alfred Molina, Jamie Foxx, and Kiersten Dunst are already confirmed, signed sealed and delivered. Officially announced cast members by the major trades. Word is Maguire should be announced soon, and they're bringing back Emma Stone to reprise Gwen Stacy from the ASM movies, as well. This is 100% happening for real.
That's a lot of folks for one movie. Would almost certainly seem to be small bit roles, right? I mean, how in the world could you pack all that into one movie, unless it's three hours long and even that's pushing it.
 

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Nope, not rumors. Garfield, Alfred Molina, Jamie Foxx, and Kiersten Dunst are already confirmed, signed sealed and delivered. Officially announced cast members by the major trades. Word is Maguire should be announced soon, and they're bringing back Emma Stone to reprise Gwen Stacy from the ASM movies, as well. This is 100% happening for real.
Rumor has it that Maguire is holding out for more face time.
 

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I'm in the same boat. It doesn't even feel coherent. It[s like they saw how well Into the Spider-Verse worked and took the wrong lessons.

Oh, and that's another rumor: Miles Morales popping up in this.
Yeah, I will give Marvel the benefit of the doubt for now, but this sounds like it could be a real mess.

Into the Spiderverse didn't exactly come out that long ago, and I assume a sequel will be coming in the next year or so. It is still very much in the public/pop culture consciousness.

I think it would be wise to let that movie have this corner for awhile. I don't think the odds of Marvel trying to do something very similar and actually doing it better (or even as good) are very high.

I really liked Charlie Cox as Murdock/DD and I think having him in a small part as Peter's lawyer could be cool, as well as serving as a good way to incorporate the character into the MCU.

But like y'all have said, this all sounds like too much stuff for one movie.
 

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That's a lot of folks for one movie. Would almost certainly seem to be small bit roles, right? I mean, how in the world could you pack all that into one movie, unless it's three hours long and even that's pushing it.
You would think. But the way they're making a big deal about the announcements makes it seem they'll be more substantial than that. And I have no idea how.

Rumor has it that Maguire is holding out for more face time.
He does have a reputation as one of the biggest egomaniacs imaginable behind the scenes, so that's not shocking. Very few people have nice things to say about him.
 

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When talking about Feige knowing better than to do something like this, do remember that this supposedly may tie in with WandaVision and Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness. It does seem like the multiverse is going to be explored big time in a lot of upcoming stuff.

And also remember, Sony has their fingers in this pie as well and they're trying to set up their own Spider franchises away from the MCU.
 

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When talking about Feige knowing better than to do something like this, do remember that this supposedly may tie in with WandaVision and Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness. It does seem like the multiverse is going to be explored big time in a lot of upcoming stuff.

And also remember, Sony has their fingers in this pie as well and they're trying to set up their own Spider franchises away from the MCU.
Yea, this. I'd actually see a Spiderman 4 if they reined it back in. However, I doubt I'd ever see an Amazing Spiderman 3 if I could help it.
 

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