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Disagreement is the foundation of discussion, it used to be a time when it was considered a bad thing for everyone to think the same.
nope. engagement is the foundation
2 people can have a totally valid discussion just by furthering/deepening each others points and bringing new perspective
disagreement that's mere contradiction is static and often a rhetorical dead end


What matters is good stories. They made the point of inject gender and sexual preference issues into their announcements. Make a character a woman doesn't make anything good. Making a character gay doesn't make it good. Make a good story that tells a compelling drama that your audience can resonate with is the basis of good storytelling.
unless you can show me that all stories that don't add gays or women are good stories, then you really don't have a point here

But we don't live in a world anymore where we want to treat people the same or as equals and let the merits of the actions and character determine the their value. So get in line with the property line of thought, or the insults will roll.
your premise, that gender, sexuality and race have no place (or only subsidiary place) in 'stories' is insulting
pointing out that other people get to have their stories told is not insulting - it's perspective
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and it rolls every time like clock work, at least its over inconsequential works of fiction that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

so go head, call me names, pitch your insults, its all so predictable.
if it's inconsequential, why are you even weighing in?
oh right. bc you don't believe what you'r saying

to be clear
your position - that stories centered around white, straight men are the only valid stories is a default position
there are significant social/cultural/financial reasons (assumptions) that most stories featured your default hero even though that hero was representative of a minority part of the population
you are the one engaging in intracted thinking
it's not that 'we' are unable to see your point of view - we've grown up with the point of view you share - it was the dominant, almost exclusive media environment we all grew up in
we are the ones expanding out points of view to consider other things
you are hanging onto the status quo that has always been there
 

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Vision, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, and Loki are FAR from b list characters.

While I disagree with almost everything he said and I do not at all share his negative views, these are the definition of B list characters. Loki MIGHT not be but the rest are not really debatable in my opinion.
 

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Well, Endgame left me deeply disappointed, here's hoping Thor 4 or Gotg3 gives the Odinson some respect.
 

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I didn't ever read the Thor comics so I have some questions. Forgive me if it's a dumb question, but I really feel like I'm missing something.
How can there be another Thor? Isn't that his name? If he's not Thor anymore than who is he? I don't really care if there's a female Thor or a frog Thor (didn't this happen), I just don't get it. Is Thor more of a title than a name? Or is it still him in another body?
 

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I didn't ever read the Thor comics so I have some questions. Forgive me if it's a dumb question, but I really feel like I'm missing something.
How can there be another Thor? Isn't that his name? If he's not Thor anymore than who is he? I don't really care if there's a female Thor or a frog Thor (didn't this happen), I just don't get it. Is Thor more of a title than a name? Or is it still him in another body?

Based on Norse mythology, which is where the marvel comic draws its inspiration, Thor was a God. 1 guy. No girl. Sif would be the closest female to what Thor is strictly speaking from a mythological standpoint.
 

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Based on Norse mythology, which is where the marvel comic draws its inspiration, Thor was a God. 1 guy. No girl. Sif would be the closest female to what Thor is strictly speaking from a mythological standpoint.

Yeah, I always had the impression that Thor was one dude who can wreck your world if you're the baddie. Sif or the Valkeries themselves were super strong. And don't forget Helga. She literally crushed the hammer with one hand and laid waste to the Asgardian army. She was arguably more powerful than Thor because he couldn't have defeated her on his own.
 

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I didn't ever read the Thor comics so I have some questions. Forgive me if it's a dumb question, but I really feel like I'm missing something.
How can there be another Thor? Isn't that his name? If he's not Thor anymore than who is he? I don't really care if there's a female Thor or a frog Thor (didn't this happen), I just don't get it. Is Thor more of a title than a name? Or is it still him in another body?
im a bit nervous to mention there's a spiderpig and an entire planet of hulks
 

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im a bit nervous to mention there's a spiderpig and an entire planet of hulks

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No just kidding. I get that. I get the multiverse thing. SpiderPig is great (so was that movie). So is that what this is? Like a What If thing?
 

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No just kidding. I get that. I get the multiverse thing. SpiderPig is great (so was that movie). So is that what this is? Like a What If thing?
She first wielded Mjölnir in a 1978 “What If” comic. However, it was Aaron and Dauterman’s storyline that made the move canon in the official Thor continuity.

The 2014 storyline followed Original Sin, an epic crossover event spanning multiple Marvel comics that revolved around the mysterious death of Uatu the Watcher on his moon base. As the story unfolded, Thor was deemed no longer worthy to wield Mjölnir and the hammer was left abandoned on the moon.

After Original Sin, Frost Giants invade Earth and a new Mighty Thor arrives to save the day. For the first seven issues, her identity was a mystery. The original Thor, Odinson, initially tries to reclaim the role from her, but eventually acknowledges that she’s worthy after seeing her in action.
 
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She first wielded Mjölnir in a 1978 “What If” comic. However, it was Aaron and Dauterman’s storyline that made the move canon in the official Thor continuity.

The 2014 storyline followed Original Sin, an epic crossover event spanning multiple Marvel comics that revolved around the mysterious death of Uatu the Watcher on his moon base. As the story unfolded, Thor was deemed no longer worthy to wield Mjölnir and the hammer was left abandoned on the moon.

After Original Sin, Frost Giants invade Earth and a new Mighty Thor arrives to save the day. For the first seven issues, her identity was a mystery. The original Thor, Odinson, initially tries to reclaim the role from her, but eventually acknowledges that she’s worthy after seeing her in action.

My only concern with the current continuity...

Is the cancer plot of her being Thor actually killing her. I hope that's not brought on screen.
 

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My only concern with the current continuity...

Is the cancer plot of her being Thor actually killing her. I hope that's not brought on screen.
but it would be an easy 1 and done hard reset of Thor - they don't want to drag jane foster out do they?
 
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ANyone post this one yet?


I trust them, but without that, this just doesn't look all that appealing to me.
 

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