Mascona has had enough (so have I) (1 Viewer)

[St. Widge]

I finally watched this. I listen to Matt every Am for the record. But he and I’s take on Dc differ and we’ve gone back and forth a couple times. With that said, his rant was fueled by hindsight, so there’s that. Which kinda negates the whole thing. But I do respect the passion even if it’s slightly miss directed. Hes the only one calling out ML, all the other local reporters are terrified to do so. So I love Matt for that. Even Bobby doesn’t call out ML. About the rant itself, it’s spot on. We whiffed on draft picks far too many times. And when you’re a financial nightmare, you cannot afford to miss on the draft. Becaue of the financial nightmare we couldn’t sign any free agents. Everyone that knows our Offensive system, knows it chews up Oline and RBs. Lucky we have a super human in AK, holding down the RB position, because Kendre cannot stay on the field. Kendre did look good last game, at least. bargain basement’s FA in 21 was another disaster. They don’t even want him on the field. I bet if you look up every NFl team that running our Offense, I bet they all have true back up centers. We had a blank spot behind McCoy. We had no depth whatsoever on the OLine. It was a house of cards waiting to fall. Too bad it fell the way it did, in the most cruel way. The Saints fans expectations were at an all time high after the first two games, only to be slammed to the ground 6 feet under repitivelty for the next 6 weeks. I don’t blame Matt for losing it. I sensed no lies.

Journalists and reporters aren't supposed to "call out" the GM, the coach, players, or anyone else. They are supposed to report the news. Somehow we have lost track of that these days.

But I also get that Moscana doesn't see himself as a journalist so he can rant and rave about whatever he wants. But, I'm not going to listen to it because I think he's a tool and an butt crevasse.

 

[St. Widge]

For the record, that metaphor went over our HC’s head.

Can't go over his head if he doesn't know what a metaphor is.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Moscona is not a reporter for nola.com or the sports anchor for WWL. He has a radio-talk show. Its essence is the giving of opinion, foremost by the host and by guests and callers.

Does Matt engage in hyperbole for ratings? Absolutely. But it seems the objection of some is not what he says but how he says it. I think Moscona is technically one of the best radio-talk people we have. He is articulate and entertaining and one of the very few we have on radio who could work in a much bigger market.

But his bombast aside, I find he is intellectually honest and willing to say what few in the New Orleans media have the courage to say. Regarding the Saints, his opinions over the past three years have been, in my opinion, on the mark. Eric Asher on 106.1 and Moscona are largely saying the same things, but Moscona makes his case more strongly.

In short, I ask is he honest and is he right. I answer both questions yes. I cannot do the same for some in the local media who live at the Saints facilities.

 

[St. Widge]

Moscona is not a reporter for nola.com or the sports anchor for WWL. He has a radio-talk show. Its essence is the giving of opinion, foremost by the host and by guests and callers.

Does Matt engage in hyperbole for ratings? Absolutely. But it seems the objection of some is not what he says but how he says it. I think Moscona is technically one of the best radio-talk people we have. He is articulate and entertaining and one of the very few we have on radio who could work in a much bigger market.

But his bombast aside, I find he is intellectually honest and willing to say what few in the New Orleans media have the courage to say. Regarding the Saints, his opinions over the past three years have been, in my opinion, on the mark. Eric Asher on 106.1 and Moscona are largely saying the same things, but Moscona makes his case more strongly.

In short, I ask is he honest and is he right. I answer both questions yes. I cannot do the same for some in the local media who live at the Saints facilities.

I've heard better opinions about the state of the team on here and without having to act like an butt crevasse and a tool to give them.

And he's no more honest than anyone else covering the team, he just doesn't have to abide by journalistic ethics or decency so he can say whatever he wants about anyone and some people will love it because they don't care about actual discussions. They just want to hear someone else express the same rage and hatred that they posses over grown men playing a game for lots of money.

If that's your thing fine. You probably also like Jim Rome, Stephen A. Smith, etc. But that's not my taste. He caters to the lowest common denominator. It's not that he's honest he just says what he thinks his listeners want to hear so he gets better ratings and hits. And that' makes people think he is honest because if he agrees with them he must be honest.

Which is of course his choice and your choice if you want to listen to it. But don't pretend he knows more, is more honest, or is more right than the actual media or even fans on this site. He just has a bigger mouth and a bigger platform.

 

[SWJJ]

I've heard better opinions about the state of the team on here and without having to act like an butt crevasse and a tool to give them.

And he's no more honest than anyone else covering the team, he just doesn't have to abide by journalistic ethics or decency so he can say whatever he wants about anyone and some people will love it because they don't care about actual discussions. They just want to hear someone else express the same rage and hatred that they posses over grown men playing a game for lots of money.

If that's your thing fine. You probably also like Jim Rome, Stephen A. Smith, etc. But that's not my taste. He caters to the lowest common denominator. It's not that he's honest he just says what he thinks his listeners want to hear so he gets better ratings and hits. And that' makes people think he is honest because if he agrees with them he must be honest.

Which is of course his choice and your choice if you want to listen to it. But don't pretend he knows more, is more honest, or is more right than the actual media or even fans on this site. He just has a bigger mouth and a bigger platform.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Some might offer more convincing arguments if they say what they believe and support those arguments rather than speculating about those with whom they disagree.

For the record, I do not like and refuse to listen to Jim Rome and Stephen A. Smith. In my nearly 26 years as a forum member, I doubt I have ever cited or mentioned either. And I do not think Moscona appeals to the lowest common denominator-- his vocabulary is too expansive. I would suggest that is the role Bobby Hebert plays.

I like Moscona because regarding the Saints he will say what so many in our local media will not say and he has been doing it since Payton left. On Loomis embarking on his continuity path, Allen as head coach, the trade with Philadelphia before the 2022 draft, the belief that the Saints need not rebuild, the Carr signing, the repeated trading of draft picks to move up in the draft, and Loomis as general manager, he has been consistently right.

 

[No2DC]

I've heard better opinions about the state of the team on here and without having to act like an butt crevasse and a tool to give them.

And he's no more honest than anyone else covering the team, he just doesn't have to abide by journalistic ethics or decency so he can say whatever he wants about anyone and some people will love it because they don't care about actual discussions. They just want to hear someone else express the same rage and hatred that they posses over grown men playing a game for lots of money.

If that's your thing fine. You probably also like Jim Rome, Stephen A. Smith, etc. But that's not my taste. He caters to the lowest common denominator. It's not that he's honest he just says what he thinks his listeners want to hear so he gets better ratings and hits. And that' makes people think he is honest because if he agrees with them he must be honest.

Which is of course his choice and your choice if you want to listen to it. But don't pretend he knows more, is more honest, or is more right than the actual media or even fans on this site. He just has a bigger mouth and a bigger platform.

We can disagree about the delivery, but please direct me to an open critic in the local media. I'm not talking about some balanced reflection on what the team needs to do better. Also, it is not the local news in large markets that will go there. It is the radio shows and podcasters. Finally, it's not the lowest common denominator; it's the truth. I find it refreshing that even some of the most balanced people on here are starting to admit that whole-scale changes are needed.

 

[SWJJ]

Some might offer more convincing arguments if they say what they believe and support those arguments rather than speculating about those with whom they disagree.

For the record, I do not like and refuse to listen to Jim Rome and Stephen A. Smith. In my 25 years as a forum member, I doubt I have ever cited or mentioned either. And I do not think Moscona appeals to the lowest common denominator-- his vocabulary is too expansive. I would suggest that is the role Bobby Hebert plays.

I like Moscona because regarding the Saints he will say what so many in our local media will not say and has been doing it since Payton left. On Loomis embarking on his continuity path, Allen as head coach, the trade with Philadelphia before the 2022 draft, the belief that the Saints need not rebuild, the Carr signing, the repeated trading of draft picks to move up in the draft, and Loomis as general manager, he has been consistently right.

Except he wasn't right about the Phili trade or the Derek Carr signing.

He was just Angry cause he didn't like it.

And what words in his vocabulary do you feel is "expansive"?

 

[St. Widge]

We can disagree about the delivery, but please direct me to an open critic in the local media. I'm not talking about some balanced reflection on what the team needs to do better. Also, it is not the local news in large markets that will go there. It is the radio shows and podcasters. Finally, it's not the lowest common denominator; it's the truth. I find it refreshing that even some of the most balanced people on here are starting to admit that whole-scale changes are needed.

What is wrong with balanced reflection on what the team needs to do better? Why wouldn't I want that over some vitriol filled emotional rant?

As I said, people always think someone is telling the truth and not appealing to the lowest common denominator when they agree with them. And for the third or fourth time, it's not whether Moscona is right or not. He is partially right about a lot of it, but it's the delivery and vitriol that I take issue with. If you like people turn criticism of grown men playing a game into personal attacks and dumb nicknames then that's cool I just personally think it makes him as butt crevasse and a tool.

Beyond that, being openly critical isn't really the job of the media. Their job is to report what is going on and tell us about it. We have lost sight of that in an era where editorial commentary is masquerading as news and where we look to social media like the people on it are reporters. They aren't bound by the same ethics that a journalist should be bound by. Certainly they can do some editorial content, but being critical and ranting the way Moscona does are two different things.

So, you can't compare Moscona to the actual journalists covering the team.

That being said Underhill, for example, has often times been critical of performance and coaching. Including constant talk about Pete not using motion or play action. And he has been critical of the lack of production in the drafts and of the cap management post Drew Brees. But, nobody notices because he doesn't yell and act like a giant butt crevasse to get attention. T-Bob Hebert has been very critical but again he doesn't resort to being a giant tool to get clicks.

Frankly, every member of the local media, outside of maybe Duncan, has been critical of the team and even Duncan has made critical comments.

If you want open criticism in the local media, I suggest you listen to what Jim Mora has to say about the team every week. That's a man with some actual knowledge about football, the NFL, and the Saints who goes off on them.

 

[DerrickB]

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

People may not notice Underhill's criticism because he operates a subscription service. I honestly cannot say what he has said about the team over the past 12 months. But when I did have access, Mike Triplett was generally more critical of the organization than Underhill. And I can say that Underhill was supportive of the Carr signing, was supportive of the 2022 trade with Philadelphia, and was supportive of Loomis's continuity approach.

I doubt that today Underhill is pointing his finger at Loomis as the root of the organization's problems. Aside from Asher and Moscona, few in the local media are. But I concede I cannot speak with any authority on what Underhill has recently been saying.

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

I mean……he ain’t wrong.



I like Mascona. He says it like it is………

 

[St. Widge]

People may not notice Underhill's criticism because he operates a subscription service. I honestly cannot say what he has said about the team over the past 12 months. But when I did have access, Mike Triplett was generally more critical of the organization than Underhill. And I can say that Underhill was supportive of the Carr signing, was supportive of the 2022 trade with Philadelphia, and was supportive of Loomis's continuity approach.

I doubt that today Underhill is pointing his finger at Loomis as the root of the organization's problems. Aside from Asher and Moscona, few in the local media are. But I concede I cannot speak with any authority on what Underhill has recently been saying.

Underhill wasn't really supportive or not supportive of Carr or the Philly trade. He reported the facts and the advantages and disadvantages. Underhill has always been in the camp of you do everything you can to find a franchise QB including draft and free agency so to that extent he's not critical of the Carr signing but he has pointed out the issues Carr has and what he needs to work on. And frankly, the Carr signing has worked out fine. He's being paid at the level of QB he is and we have seen that there is a huge difference between his play and that of less experienced QBs. Maybe had we not signed Carr we would have gotten a year of a Baker Mayfield situation, but we easily could have also missed on someone like that in the old offense and be worse off now. Besides that, Mayfield now gets paid like Carr.

We need to find a young QB that we can groom to be a franchise QB, but having Carr here doesn't hurt that.

And the idea that the "finger needs to pointed at Loomis as the root of the organization's problems" is your opinion, the opinion of some other posters here, and Moscona's opinion. Not some established fact that a member of the media has to agree with and has to establish a crusade about. Pointing the finger at members of the organization is not the job of a journalist or a member of the media. But I know in this 24 hour news cycle world we have come to believe that all news needs to come with opinions and accusations.

Both Underhill and Trip have talked about what the Saints do with the cap and the advantages and disadvantages of it. And they have both been critical of the drafts, the constant trades up, and the signing of older players. But they don't go on YouTube and rant about it. But, Nick did write a long article that was very critical of the current cap situation and noting that it needs to be fixed.

And frankly, if you cared to know what Underhill or Triplett said about the team while some of his content is behind a pay wall, he has plenty of free content on his YouTube channel at NOF Network and posts plenty of things on Twitter/X. And he does at least one non-paywalled podcast per week.

But no, he doesn't spend every show ranting about the team.

 

[DaveXA]

I mean……he ain’t wrong.



I like Mascona. He says it like it is………

Blind squirrels and all that.

 

[St. Widge]

I mean……he ain’t wrong.



I like Mascona. He says it like it is………

"Says it like it is . . ." is always what people say when someone agrees with them. But, it's opinion, not fact.