McShay's Scouts, Inc. Mock Draft 2

kevison

No talent ***-clown
Joined
May 3, 2007
Messages
629
Ratings
5
Location
Denver via Metairie
Offline
FWIW, here is McShay's newest mock draft. Sorry if you don't subscribe to ESPN Insider:

1. Miami Dolphins -- Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

2. St. Louis Rams -- Chris Long, DE, Virginia

3. Atlanta Falcons** -- Darren McFadden*, RB, Arkansas

4. Oakland Raiders** -- Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

5. Kansas City Chiefs** -- Jake Long, OT, Michigan

6. New York Jets -- Vernon Gholston*, DE, Ohio State

7. N.E. Patriots (from 5-11 San Francisco) -- Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

8. Baltimore Ravens -- Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

9. Cincinnati Bengals -- Derrick Harvey*, DE, Florida

10. New Orleans Saints -- Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida

Record: 7-9 | Needs: CB, MLB, DT, OLB, TE
Previous mock selection: Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
Cornerback and linebacker are the Saints' biggest areas of need, and Jenkins is the best athlete available at those positions. His combination of size, speed and athleticism is outstanding, and his recognition skills continue to improve each season. Jenkins also brings versatility to the table, since he can play some safety and chip in on returns. If New Orleans uses this pick on a corner, it should find much better value at linebacker early in Round 2.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3231292

By the way, he has Rivers and DRC going at the very end of the first round. Notable absences from round 1 are Kenny Phillips and Dan Conner.
That would be nice if we could pick one of them up in Round 2.:9:
 
Banned #2

llama

Very Banned
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 1, 2006
Messages
10,483
Ratings
1,414
Offline
Jenkins better shine at the combine. I _really_ liked watching DRC at the Senior Bowl in person. (And yes, as someone who once lived in north Tampa near USF I have followed their season).
 

SaintsRays

More than 15K posts served!
Joined
Nov 7, 2002
Messages
17,704
Ratings
829
Age
31
Location
St Pete, FL
Offline
That would be awesome...

I'm telling you guys, Mike Jenkins is a very good man corner...

And last year was the first time he ever returned a kickoff... 100 yards and a TD on the first shot... (Average was dragged down by a 3-yard return later in the year when he was trying to run out clock and secure the ball, but with the little number of returns he had it's really unimportant.)
 

canuckredux

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Feb 5, 2006
Messages
4,140
Ratings
1,412
Offline
Can Ellis fit their system? I thought that the entire thought process of him dropping down to our reach or position was because many of the D's in front of us ran the 3-4? Right?
Not really; he's 6'1; to play in the 3-4, you'd ideally be 6'4+. Also they drafted Haloti Ngata 2 years ago. They have bigger needs, but, if they were looking for an end, I'd think Kentwan Balmer would make a better fit. I'm warming up to him, in the event that we can't get Dorsey or Ellis.
 

Slim K

Suggestions?
Joined
Sep 4, 2007
Messages
840
Ratings
410
Location
Australia
Offline
Atlanta - McFadden?

Miami - Ryan?

Baltimore - Ellis?

I am getting sick of people saying Beck is not the answer. The only time you saw him play was on the road with the worst team in the league. This draft isn't very well thought out.
 

Saint Droopy

Born/Raised in Hollygrove
Gold VIP Contributor
Joined
May 29, 2006
Messages
25,622
Ratings
16,498
Location
Reppin' N.O. here in DFW
Offline

REALCHRISM

Super Forum Fanatic
Joined
Sep 6, 1997
Messages
9,298
Ratings
12
Age
40
Offline
Not really; he's 6'1; to play in the 3-4, you'd ideally be 6'4+. Also they drafted Haloti Ngata 2 years ago. They have bigger needs, but, if they were looking for an end, I'd think Kentwan Balmer would make a better fit. I'm warming up to him, in the event that we can't get Dorsey or Ellis.
I think the Ravens would be more in play for Mike Jenkins than Ellis. The Ravens primary needs are at QB and CB. I could see them opt for Jenkins. I think this was a case of McShay not wanting to have Ellis fall too far and so he stuck him somewhere. I think Ellis could work as a NT in a 3-4, but I think he's most effective in a 4-3 defense.
 

REALCHRISM

Super Forum Fanatic
Joined
Sep 6, 1997
Messages
9,298
Ratings
12
Age
40
Offline
Actually, they run a 3-4 defense. I did not even click on the link from ESPN, but you can hardly trust anything they tell you. Here is a copy of the Ravens' depth chart showing a 3-4 defense.

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th

LDT Dwan Edwards Amon Gordon None None None
NT Kelly Gregg Justin Bannan None None None
RDT Haloti Ngata Justin Bannan J'Vonne Parker None None
ROLB Terrell Suggs Antwan Barnes Gary Stills None None
LOLB Jarret Johnson Antwan Barnes Edgar Jones None None
MLB Ray Lewis Nick Greisen Robert McCune None None
RLB Bart Scott Nick Greisen None None None
LCB Corey Ivy David Pittman None None None
RCB Derrick Martin Willie Gaston Ronnie Prude None None
SS Dawan Landry Jamaine Winborne None None None
FS Ed Reed Jamaine Winborne None

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=278
 
Joined
Jan 3, 2006
Messages
1,429
Ratings
182
Age
41
Location
Mobile, AL
Offline
Atlanta - McFadden?

Miami - Ryan?

Baltimore - Ellis?

I am getting sick of people saying Beck is not the answer. The only time you saw him play was on the road with the worst team in the league. This draft isn't very well thought out.
You can't see Miami taking a QB or Atlanta taking McFadden? I could see that happening in a heartbeat. Those are positions for both of those teams that sucked last year to say the least.
 
Joined
Oct 30, 2000
Messages
8,262
Ratings
3,735
Offline
Actually, they run a 3-4 defense. I did not even click on the link from ESPN, but you can hardly trust anything they tell you. Here is a copy of the Ravens' depth chart showing a 3-4 defense.

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th

LDT Dwan Edwards Amon Gordon None None None
NT Kelly Gregg Justin Bannan None None None
RDT Haloti Ngata Justin Bannan J'Vonne Parker None None
ROLB Terrell Suggs Antwan Barnes Gary Stills None None
LOLB Jarret Johnson Antwan Barnes Edgar Jones None None
MLB Ray Lewis Nick Greisen Robert McCune None None
RLB Bart Scott Nick Greisen None None None
LCB Corey Ivy David Pittman None None None
RCB Derrick Martin Willie Gaston Ronnie Prude None None
SS Dawan Landry Jamaine Winborne None None None
FS Ed Reed Jamaine Winborne None

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=278
They also have Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle, and BJ Sams at CB.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.




Saints Headlines (The Advocate)

Headlines

Top Bottom