Mike Thomas Approves of Carr (1 Viewer)

[0rion]

We already paid MT and got nothing for it. I'm ready to move on.

 

[jayd265]

We already paid MT and got nothing for it. I'm ready to move on.

Can’t foresee injuries.

Plus didn’t he have the best season of his career after signing

 

[HouseCall]

We already paid MT and got nothing for it. I'm ready to move on.

For clarification - we didn’t get nothing.

The season AFTER he signed the deal, he had the most prolific receiving season in league history at that time.

Then injuries crushed the next 3 season.

Agreed that he didn’t “earn” that 100 million in full but he did go all out, when healthy, following the contract signing.

Also, don’t forget how amazing he looked (when healthy) in week one this past season. And that a hospital ball from Winston in week 2 essentially ended his brief comeback.

Thomas is a baller and if he is healthy he is the best receiver we have - by far. And that’s not a knock on Olave - that’s just how good MT is.

 

[HouseCall]

Can’t foresee injuries.

Plus didn’t he have the best season of his career after signing

Also remember that he got injured blocking downfield on a meaningless play because Payton wanted to show up Arians and Brady.

 

[DaFranchise80]

I will purchase his jersey if he returns just to upset some Saints “fans.”

 

[stooge]

We already paid MT and got nothing for it. I'm ready to move on.

We got one of the greatest receiving seasons in history. Followed by a season in which he got hurt doing the dirty work of blocking, then tried to gut it out for the team in Brees’s last season. Let’s not act like he hurt himself doing parkour in the offseason.

 

[0rion]

Can’t foresee injuries.

Plus didn’t he have the best season of his career after signing

For clarification - we didn’t get nothing.

The season AFTER he signed the deal, he had the most prolific receiving season in league history at that time.

Then injuries crushed the next 3 season.

Agreed that he didn’t “earn” that 100 million in full but he did go all out, when healthy, following the contract signing.

Also, don’t forget how amazing he looked (when healthy) in week one this past season. And that a hospital ball from Winston in week 2 essentially ended his brief comeback.

Thomas is a baller and if he is healthy he is the best receiver we have - by far. And that’s not a knock on Olave - that’s just how good MT is.

We got one of the greatest receiving seasons in history. Followed by a season in which he got hurt doing the dirty work of blocking, then tried to gut it out for the team in Brees’s last season. Let’s not act like he hurt himself doing parkour in the offseason.

I just see excuses. We paid him a load of money for 1 year of catching passes and several years of doing nothing and you guys are ready to keep paying him? Not me. Time to move on. I don't dislike him and it sucks that he got injured. I really wish he could've kept killing it for us but he didn't. He didn't even come close to earning that contract so unless he wants to play for free for a couple seasons I'm done.

 

[HouseCall]

I just see excuses. We paid him a load of money for 1 year of catching passes and several years of doing nothing and you guys are ready to keep paying him? Not me. Time to move on. I don't dislike him and it sucks that he got injured. I really wish he could've kept killing it for us but he didn't. He didn't even come close to earning that contract so unless he wants to play for free for a couple seasons I'm done.

I’m confused. Where is anyone making excuses? Nothing we pointed out is anything but fact.

He was paid.
He balled out after.
He got injured on a play in which he shouldn’t have even been in the game.
He tries to “play through it” for Drew.
He has a set back in 2021
He came back ready in 2022
Balled out in week 1.
Got injured in week 2 making an attempt on an erratic pass by Winston.


None of that is excuses.

Should the Saints pay him 30 million on the 15th? NO WAY!

However, they’d be fools to not try and find a way to keep him in the fold. He’s the best receiver on the roster and will be the top receiver for any team who signs him. How would you feel facing him twice a year in Carolina or Atlanta?

Anyway, besides the point.

If… he is healthy…he is a huge addition to our offense that now has a QB.

Not excuses. Just fact.

Will it work out that he signs a team friendly deal to stay? Maybe not.

But if I’m Loomis - I’m trying to get him to agree to one.

 

[bearze34]

The rumors of him staying might hold weight

IF we can keep Thomas and IF they both stay healthy we have a chance to have an elite offense. We will have 3 very good receivers. We need a TE and we need some depth on the OL. In my opinion we just vaulted into the best team in the division by far.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

I’m confused. Where is anyone making excuses? Nothing we pointed out is anything but fact.

He was paid.
He balled out after.
He got injured on a play in which he shouldn’t have even been in the game.
He tries to “play through it” for Drew.
He has a set back in 2021
He came back ready in 2022
Balled out in week 1.
Got injured in week 2 making an attempt on an erratic pass by Winston.


None of that is excuses.

Should the Saints pay him 30 million on the 15th? NO WAY!

However, they’d be fools to not try and find a way to keep him in the fold. He’s the best receiver on the roster and will be the top receiver for any team who signs him. How would you feel facing him twice a year in Carolina or Atlanta?

Anyway, besides the point.

If… he is healthy…he is a huge addition to our offense that now has a QB.

Not excuses. Just fact.

Will it work out that he signs a team friendly deal to stay? Maybe not.

But if I’m Loomis - I’m trying to get him to agree to one.

I'll PayPal you $50 if you can find the erratic throw vs Carolina that got MT13 injured.

The criteria are: he has to be visibly injured off of a bad pass and he has to come off the field immediately afterwards.

 

[Judge_Smails]

I'll PayPal you $50 if you can find the erratic throw vs Carolina that got MT13 injured.

The criteria are: he has to be visibly injured off of a bad pass and he has to come off the field immediately afterwards.

Thanks. I almost took his troll bait.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Thanks. I almost took his troll bait.

Bruh...like I'm so tired of reading that...everybody keeps repeating that. Must be from the same universe as AKs fight video with the carnivorous singing ficus.

 

[HouseCall]

I'll PayPal you $50 if you can find the erratic throw vs Carolina that got MT13 injured.

The criteria are: he has to be visibly injured off of a bad pass and he has to come off the field immediately afterwards.

So what you’re saying is it’s only a legit injury if he had to come immediately off the field?

Is that the case for all season ending injuries?

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

So what you’re saying is it’s only a legit injury if he had to come immediately off the field?

Is that the case for all season ending injuries?

You think MT could've played an entire drive with this going on inside his shoe?


Because he played an entire drive where he didn't get targeted before he left the game

Also how does someone throw someone into doing this to their foot? Did he have a pass called a toe twister or something?

 

[HouseCall]

Bruh...like I'm so tired of reading that...everybody keeps repeating that. Must be from the same universe as AKs fight video with the carnivorous singing ficus.

Understood. I won’t double down on that and I’ll retract my recollection or how Thomas was injured since it’s actually not relevant to anything. Thomas was injured in a game and that it was significant enough to end his season after a setback in his rehab. How it happened doesn’t matter. So I’ll stop repeating something that I can’t validate on here.

 

[Sea Fog]

IF Mike stays, how many wide receivers will we keep and who are they? I ask the latter because I dunno if Deonte is still under contract. But IF he is, we keep SIX cause he’ll b the “starter” at KR/PR. So, Mike, CO, Sheed n Harty make 4. The other 2? For now, on paper, probably Trequan n Kirkwood. But IMO there’s likely gonna b lotsa competition for those last 2 spots! We’ll see!

We keep 6 WRs and we currently have 7 under contract.

1. Michael Thomas
2. Chris Olave
3. Rashid Shaheed
4. Tre'Quan Smith
5. Keith Kirkwood
6. Kirk Merritt
7. Kawaan Baker

Callaway is a FA and he should be gone.
Landry is a shell of himself and injury prone now. If he's retained you have to plan on some time missed to injury.
Kawaan Baker was re-signed.
Keith Kirkwood was re-signed.

I'd say the top 3 are safe with TQS somewhat safe as well. We currently don't have a backup X for MT. Merritt and Baker play ST, but are similar builds so they might be battling for the same roster spot. Did the conversion to RB stop for Merritt or is that ongoing? I don't know so maybe Merritt is a RB now.

I would say we draft at least 1 big X WR with speed. 6'3" 200lbs or bigger with a 4.46 40 or faster, big hands, long arms, and a 35" or higher vertical. I'd also bring in a similar skillset late in the draft or UDFA to develop on the PS. Add another UDFA returner so Shaheed can convert to full-time WR.

Projected:
1. MT (X)
2. CO (Y,Z)
3. RS (Y,Z, KR, PR)
4. TQS (X,Y,Z)
5. Rookie Big/Fast X
6. Kirkwood or Baker (here due to familiarity with the system, but can be upgraded in draft)

RB3/4: KM

PS:
Developmental X
Developmental Y
Developmental Z