Mountain Lion Soils Jogger's Shorts / Cougar on the Prowl for a Young Man (1 Viewer)

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Six minutes of adrenaline and terror - about the 2:50 mark it charges a few times, scary sheet. I've been doing a lot of backpacking the last few years and running into a mountain lion is probably my biggest fear out in the wilderness (I see plenty of scat so I know they're out there).

 

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I’ve fished/hiked and upland bird hunted for 45 years. I’ve encountered many black bears, one grizzly and a mountain lion (that had thankfully just taken down a antelope on the upper Ruby valley in MT). In all cases the animals, as soon as they were aware of my presence, took off in the other direction, maybe I’ve been lucky, but it supports the notion that animals rarely attack.

That said, thinking a gun is going to protect you is foolishness. Most folks aren’t going to hit a animal moving at 30-40mph, bear/cougar spray is much much more effective....

And there are multiple instances of folks hitting the animal with a bullet but not bringing it down, guess what happens next.....
It's not that you need to shoot them, the gun is just really loud and the sound can scare an animal off.
 
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where is that exactly? My best friend is moving to Ft. Collins soon and plan on doing some of that next summer ( along with fishing so ill be asking about that too )
That was Kroenke Lake, near Buena Vista.


I also backpacked to Whitney Lake and Brady Lake near Redcliff this summer, and both were spectacular. Brady lake was a little bigger, and actually has a second lake right next to it (Sopris Lake), but it's easier to get to so there were more people. Whitney Lake was a straight up incline the whole way up, but it was spectacular once we got there, and just full of cutthroat trout.


 

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It's not that you need to shoot them, the gun is just really loud and the sound can scare an animal off.
Possibly but not likely. There are a number of folks who illegally carry in National Parks though....spray is legal, safer and more effective.....
 

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Cutthroat I believe. My 16 year old caught one in our first five minutes, and then nothing the rest of the day.

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we commonly refer to those as "suicide" or "kamikaze" trout....that trout you catch on your first cast.

Then NOTHING rest of day.

I really think the other fish put them up to taking the bait to see if he comes back. lol
 

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That was Kroenke Lake, near Buena Vista.


I also backpacked to Whitney Lake and Brady Lake near Redcliff this summer, and both were spectacular. Brady lake was a little bigger, and actually has a second lake right next to it (Sopris Lake), but it's easier to get to so there were more people. Whitney Lake was a straight up incline the whole way up, but it was spectacular once we got there, and just full of cutthroat trout.


Thank you kindly.
 

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I’ve fished/hiked and upland bird hunted for 45 years. I’ve encountered many black bears, one grizzly and a mountain lion (that had thankfully just taken down a antelope on the upper Ruby valley in MT). In all cases the animals, as soon as they were aware of my presence, took off in the other direction, maybe I’ve been lucky, but it supports the notion that animals rarely attack.

That said, thinking a gun is going to protect you is foolishness. Most folks aren’t going to hit a animal moving at 30-40mph, bear/cougar spray is much much more effective....

And there are multiple instances of folks hitting the animal with a bullet but not bringing it down, guess what happens next.....

My father managed a campground in Copper Landing AK during the summer after he retired. Bears are especially dangerous.
Their heart beat is around 30 bpm. It takes a long time for them to bleed to death. They can easily kill a human even after being
mortally wounded.
 

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And there are multiple instances of folks hitting the animal with a bullet but not bringing it down, guess what happens next.....
I've seen multiple instance where someone just shoots a gun in the air and these same animals take off in the other direction.

It all depends on the individual animal, but I'd rather take my chances trying to startle it than turning and running, or trying to act big and scary. Some creatures just take that as a challenge. Especially the males.
 

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It all depends on the individual animal, but I'd rather take my chances trying to startle it than turning and running, or trying to act big and scary. Some creatures just take that as a challenge. Especially the males.
Running away is the worst mistake a person can make. That is what their natural prey does. There is a good chance they'll
view you the same way and attack. Usain Bolt isn't going to outrun a cougar, or a black or brown bear.
 
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Problem with that is if you run away a mountain lion will chase you. It's instinct is to chase things since they are an apex predator. Apparently the best advice is to do what he did, back away, stay big, don't bend over, and make a lot of noise.

His mistake was not immediately backing away when he saw the cub. Still, the momma might have chased him anyway if she came around the bend and saw him backing away. But, if you have your back turned to it, it will not end well.
I didn't mean literally. He was "running" in the wilderness when he came upon the cubs. I was repeating it for effect.

What he should have done as soon as he saw the cubs is immediately stop and begin backing away as quickly as possible rather than try to creep up on it to get a video on his phone.
 

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zoologists are going to go ape:poop: over this excellent, if ill-advised, home movie

never been afraid of cougars, but mountain lions were always my biggest concern when backpacking

100 pounds of muscle, claws and teeth, and look how quick she is!
 

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