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Mr. Paul Caruso
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>>The left has tried to imply for years that the Nazi's were a bunch of christian conservatives who believed in free trade.
Reb beat me to it, but perhaps people would prefer the usage of the term neo-nazi or ultra nationalist. Be it conservatism or nazism, it's all pretty much the opposite arm of anarchism. :rock:
>>Sorry BullDawg, you're wrong there. The only reason Saddam was in a box at that time was because of the sanctions. But he was slowly and surely buying his way out of the box. Oil for food money was flowing through the halls of Europe and the UN like water through the 17th Street canal breech. Annan's son was bought. High officials in the German and French governments were bought and paid for. The genie was about to be let out the bottle, and all evidence acquired since the war reveals the wmd programs were still in place and ready to kick back into action as soon as the reins were loosened. Hell, there was still wmd activity with all the sanctions and inspections in place. He was a dangerous madman. We live in a dangerous world. The problem no longer is planes flying into a highrise. It is biological agents in your water supply, nerve gas at your LSU game, or a mushroom cloud over your city. Think I'm exaggerating? There were folks who thought Osama was just a raving lunatic a decade ago when he started his rantings against the US(me included). I'm a believer now. I'm not sure what it will take to convince everyone, but I'm afraid for the consequences of not believing.
This is simply your opinion. You haven't really shown that he was wrong. Take a look at a Middle Eastern map and tell me how he was a threat to America. Seriously. His reach might have been 1,000 miles (at best) even with a WMD program. Israel? Yes. Jordan? Yes. Iran? Yes. But that's about it. I've provided a link for ease (possibly the map itself):
No way in hell is that "box" expanding. He had no mandate for anything but Kuwait and Israel. A missle attack on Israel appeases and buys street credit with pan-Arabia. An invasion of Kuwait (circa 1990) gets him access to the Gulf. Since Iraq was never known for its naval prowess, and because America would have simply destroyed him from thousands of miles away (Red Sea as in Gulf War 1) or from missles launched from perhaps even the Arabian Sea, he could not have threatened the Gulf States (Qatar, Bahrain, UAE). No way he could have done anything to destabilize Saudi Arabia except through funding of underground activity (and let's don't forget that the Saddam, King Faud, Shiek Zayed et al are also the sworn enemies of Al Queda).
You, as anyone else, are free to believe whatever you want as a rationalization for why we're in Iraq and to tie it into the greater war on terror. I, while supporting the overthrow of Saddam, can not be convinced that he would have ever (5, 10, 20 years) become a threat to the United States without aid from the likes of China or Russia (or any of the former USSR states possessing ICBM's). We, nor Israel, would never have allowed it and would have struck any potential importation of such weapons into Iraq. (We would obviously know about it).
JMO
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Simply put, SH's plan was to make WMDs and sell them to anyone who could get them here.
If he had succeeded, it would have been a bad scene.
C