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i'm gladPrayer works for me, and everyone I know personally, that has tried it, in a beneficial way.
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i'm gladPrayer works for me, and everyone I know personally, that has tried it, in a beneficial way.
Those books were written by men as well.
What sort of esoteric messages are you referring to? I'd think a perfect deity's message would be perfect, and should be clear to all.
You are speaking about the way things happen here and not by the things that would apply to our creator. That’s ok because that’s all you or I know. But if our creator(God) was able to breathe life into our lungs and provide us with everything we needed to survive(food,water and shelte) don’t you think he could do things we don’t understan?plenty of situations where mother doesn't know father and father has no idea
impregnator is not the same as 'father' correct?
i think we don't understand anything an infinite being/energy doesYou are speaking about the way things happen here and not by the things that would apply to our creator. That’s ok because that’s all you or I know. But if our creator(God) was able to breathe life into our lungs and provide us with everything we needed to survive(food,water and shelte) don’t you think he could do things we don’t understan?
I am just asking you for your opinion. Won't ask again.mostly that which aligns almost perfectly with what Buddhists believe. I’m not the one you want to debunk bible with, it’s just not my book. There is wisdom there but you have to sort through too much useless to find it.
I am just asking you for your opinion. Won't ask again.
This for me.I’m not religious, and still believe in the power of prayer.
There’s something else I wanted to add about my faith. I believe God put everything on earth for us to use in one way or another. I smoke weed or thc and I really don’t care about getting high. I do it for pain relief. I have degenerative disk disease that has been a pain in my butt for a long time and no I’m in the early stages of degenerative joint disease and both are very painful. I’ve also been told that I have a defective gene that gives me a high tolerance to pain, pain pills, alcohol and other things. The only pain medication that helps me for a short period of time is hydromorphone. Imagine going into your Dr and with a straight face asking for a prescription for that. So weed does help me if I don’t let the pain get to bad before I use som.
I know there are a lot of people that may think I’m sinning by smoking but I don’t do it in front of anyone other than my wife. I didn’t want to be talking about my faith and misleading anyone by what I might say on another thread.
That’s kind of profoundFor the longest time I co-signed the belief amongst cigarette smokers that smoking helped calm their nerves.
To this day when I get upset or stressed, I have to smoke a cigarette before I can address the situation. But years ago I realized that it wasn't really the cigarette helping me, it was the breathing.
The deliberate inhaling and exhaling you do when smoking. That's where the calming effect comes from.
It doesn't always work. Depending on how wound up I am, 1000 deliberate breaths wouldn't calm me down.
But that's how I view prayers. I think the perception that they work has more to do with the prayee deliberately organizing their thoughts; focusing on what they want.
In some cases, deciding on a preferred outcome and expressing the desire for it to happen.
In other cases, they might ask a question ('What should I do/Show me the way') and make themselves available to receive an answer.
I don't think god is listening or guiding them. An answer to a dilemma means you had your head and heart open to receive one. Any perceived benefits of prayer are of their own doing.
But they don't realize it because they set out to get help from god. So if the help materializes, surely it must've come from him.
If I say a cigarette calms me down. Then I smoke one and become calm, surely it must've been the cigarette...
When prayers aren't answered, it's like 1000 deliberate breaths when I'm wound too tight (it won't make a difference and I'll have to find some other way to achieve calm).
In any event, when people ask me to pray for them, I say ok but I don't do it. If believing I can positively impact their situation might help them achieve their preferred outcome, then I let them believe it.
I personally suspect this is true, but don't completely discount the possibility of some quantum mechanical influence of prayer -- the collective methodology of which one might call 'God'. Which makes the way I pray a bit weird perhaps.But that's how I view prayers. I think the perception that they work has more to do with the prayee deliberately organizing their thoughts; focusing on what they want.
In some cases, deciding on a preferred outcome and expressing the desire for it to happen.
In other cases, they might ask a question ('What should I do/Show me the way') and make themselves available to receive an answer.
I don't think god is listening or guiding them. An answer to a dilemma means you had your head and heart open to receive one. Any perceived benefits of prayer are of their own doing.
Alright...I didn't intend to get into a theological debate.You don't get in trouble because God denies you what you want as a parent figure, you get in trouble due to your craving or aversion for events or things. We are here to learn and to teach. Once those things are accomplished it's the end of our time.
It is said that our Essence dwells for a time in the Sprit world, but then must descend to the material realms to learn, or to assist others to learn. Our spirit picks its path here knowing the parents who will birth it, and all the trials and triumphs it will face. We are not allowed to speak of the World outside this one, and so as we prepare for birth the Angel presses it's finger to our lips and says "Shhh". This gesture leaves the indentation under our nose and ensures our silence.
God is more like a therapist than a parent. He/she is not here to tell you exactly what you should or should not do, but rather help you make that choice for yourself. The Buddha was once asked why his teaching appeared contradictory. He said "If you're walking down the road and you're about to fall into a ditch on the right side, I'll say 'go left. If you're about to fall into a ditch on the left, I'll say 'go right"
"Be still and know that I am..."
Thank you for that way to look at that. I like it.2) I believe that God is my Creator and my parents are my earthly creators. That is the link in MY belief that God is my ultimate parent.
And, again, thank you for this. I mos def use God as therapy and was sort of reticent to admit it.3) I also view God as my therapist in the manner that I can pray to Him/talk to Him and relieve my soul in doing so.