N/S Phillip Rivers retiring (1 Viewer)

I may be the only one, but after hearing about Brittany’s insta post, I’m not so sure Brees goes out just yet. It won’t surprise me if he is on a huge pitch count next season. I just have this feeling that he’s not going to let that playoff performance be the last memory fans have of him.
Pitch count in football. I don’t think that is going to work.
 
I may be the only one, but after hearing about Brittany’s insta post, I’m not so sure Brees goes out just yet. It won’t surprise me if he is on a huge pitch count next season. I just have this feeling that he’s not going to let that playoff performance be the last memory fans have of him.
My God I hope he doesn't come back. It's time to move on. If her post is true then his body is breaking down. He should go before he suffers an even more serious injury.
 
kind of surprised by this. Looking at his stats, he seemed to have a fairly decent year
 
That was quick, what's Brees hold up.

I doubt Brees announces his retirement until March/April. Payton will def know before the draft but I bet Drew doesn't announce anything until after the draft is over.
 
I may be the only one, but after hearing about Brittany’s insta post, I’m not so sure Brees goes out just yet. It won’t surprise me if he is on a huge pitch count next season. I just have this feeling that he’s not going to let that playoff performance be the last memory fans have of him.
people said same last year. what happens in 12 months time when same thing happens?

At some point you gotta call it.
 
So long to the Father of Us All. Next stop Canton.



He earned my respect when he played in the AFC Championship with a torn ACL. That was a BAMF move.


Canton? Is he going there to visit or something? Rivers won't be in the HoF.
 
I like how he announced his retirement and did not pull a brett favre.
 
Canton? Is he going there to visit or something? Rivers won't be in the HoF.
I think Rivers, at the very least, has a decent chance of making the HOF. IMHO, he's probably the closest thing a current long-running, successful QB is to being borderline HOF'er, which means while he may have a below 500. Postseason win/loss record, his overall career passing stats, passing TDs, are just too blatantly obvious to be casually or flippantly ignored like their secondary and no big deal. I'm sorry, like it or not, whether most of us on here respect Rivers, like or dislike him throughout the course of his 17 year career, career passing stats are huge significant factors that need reasonable, articulate counterarguments to dispel or leave him out. Rivers' career and his longevity can't be compartmentalized and dismissed like Donovan McNabb's, or in a few seasons, maybe Matthew Stafford's career is done, once for all. A similar, but perhaps slightly less convincing case might present itself in examining Matt Ryan's career stats, career passing TD's. If Ryan surpasses 60,000 passing yards, plausibly, and adds maybe 3-4,000 more passing yards to it and ends up around or close to 65,000 career passing yards overall.

60,000 career passing yards, for the previous generation of NFL QBs(Brees', Brady, and Manning's) and likely for Mahomes, Watson, and Josh Kelly upcoming generation, that's one key benchmark that's the new equivalent of what 40-45,000 passing yards and led your team to numerous playoff appearances like Warren Moon of old Oilers did, then your in the discussion, IMO. That means, you're in that deep-grey borderline area, where maybe some, if not most, NFL HOF voters, want to induct you but need that extra reassuring argument.

Philip Rivers, like Ken Anderson, Randy Gradishar, Dave Dalby and perhaps even Cameron Jordan once he surpasses the 100-career sack mark and how much more he adds to it(if a NFL DE finishes his career in the 110-115 career sack range make him HOF worthy?) are in that small, narrow list of current and former NFL greats whose careers were too successful, noteworthy to just label them in the Hall of Very Good, their in that smaller category maybe a 1/2 tier notch higher, the Borderline HOF. Hall of Very Good is more of an automatic no, their solid but not great. This next tier of players do have a strong case but not everyone is convinced entirely. Art Monk and to a lesser extent, Rickey Jackson was placed in this category until the last bitter holdouts got shouted down and their arguments against their inclusions were discredited and dismissed.

I suspect Rivers may fall into that same sort of category. How many winning seasons did he have as an NFL starting QB? How many seasons did he lead the San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers/Colts to postseason(2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2013, 2018, and 2020). He led Chargers to winning or non-losing seasons in 2014, 2017, and IIRC 2009 and 2011 they finished 8-8.
 

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