N/S: XFL TV ratings week 1 (2 Viewers)

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The players who signed with the XFL did so because they have no way into NFL: they didn't get drafted, weren't signed as UFRA's, tried out and got cut... Right now, the XFL is not an avenue leading to the NFL, is a player's last hope that maybe, just maybe, someone will notice them. The overwhelming majority of them will never even sniff an NFL training facility.
Yeah, but they all HOPE to play in the NFL. That’s really all that matters. And at least a few of them will. It happened with the first iteration of the XFL, and it happens with the CFL each year. Therefore, a Feb-Apr mini-season is the best option for all parties.
 

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Yeah, but they all HOPE to play in the NFL. That’s really all that matters. And at least a few of them will. It happened with the first iteration of the XFL, and it happens with the CFL each year. Therefore, a Feb-Apr mini-season is the best option for all parties.
No, it isn't.

They can hope all they want, but 99.9% of them are rejects and will never even sniff an NFL training camp. That's why they are in the XFL, because they can't get into the NFL, or even the CFL for that matter. Sure, a few may catch the eye of NFL teams, but that doesn't illicit an entire league formulating its schedule around a few players who could possibly be given a tryout by the NFL.
 

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No, it isn't.

They can hope all they want, but 99.9% of them are rejects and will never even sniff an NFL training camp. That's why they are in the XFL, because they can't get into the NFL, or even the CFL for that matter. Sure, a few may catch the eye of NFL teams, but that doesn't illicit an entire league formulating its schedule around a few players who could possibly be given a tryout by the NFL.
Name a better time of year.
 

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Why?


You keep saying that, but it doesn't apply.
Because the NFL is the dominant league. The commissioner is universally hated and the NFL still gets 20 million on a Sunday afternoon.
The XFL got a little over 3 million. It’s good. They can survive if they can keep those numbers, but it cannot compete with the NFL.
 

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No, it isn't.

They can hope all they want, but 99.9% of them are rejects and will never even sniff an NFL training camp. That's why they are in the XFL, because they can't get into the NFL, or even the CFL for that matter. Sure, a few may catch the eye of NFL teams, but that doesn't illicit an entire league formulating its schedule around a few players who could possibly be given a tryout by the NFL.
You do realize there are a number of former or previously drafted NFL players in the league? These are talented players who are a notch below the NFL and could potentially get signed. If they show well and are in good shape, they'll potentially get invited to some team's camp. There are real football coaches out there trying to field the best team possible for a new league.

I was skeptical. The last time I watched anything other than college or pro football was the USFL. I figured I'd give this a try and ended up watch almost all of the 4 games. The quality of play was far better than I expected for as short as their preparation was and it seemed like a lot of it was on point.

As for the scheduling, I agree with the others that you want to stay in your lane and the best time to play games is between the Super Bowl and the draft, which is the slowest time of the year. After the draft, you run into training camps and free agency and also hot weather. Playing football from April to July would not be practical unless all of the games were indoors. Having football games outside is a fun experience and I don't think this new league can afford to be building suitable indoor stadiums.

Just a few of my thoughts anyway.
 

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Unless its indoors or, in the northernmost states, it will be too hot to play in the spring.

I don't think any of the teams currently have an indoor venue. And even if they wanted to, I'm not sure it would be feasible for a small league like theirs. Maybe a few year down the road, it might be doable, but certainly not at this stage.
 
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You do realize there are a number of former or previously drafted NFL players in the league?These are talented players who are a notch below the NFL and could potentially get signed. If they show well and are in good shape, they'll potentially get invited to some team's camp. There are real football coaches out there trying to field the best team possible for a new league.
What you and others don't seem to realize these players are playing in the XFL because they can't make it or make it back into the NFL. McMahon didn't bring back the XFL to farm players to the NFL. The XFL needs players too. Scheduling an entire new league around the possibility that a couple of players could be called up by an NFL team doesn't seem reasonable.


As for the scheduling, I agree with the others that you want to stay in your lane and the best time to play games is between the Super Bowl and the draft, which is the slowest time of the year. After the draft, you run into training camps and free agency and also hot weather. Playing football from April to July would not be practical unless all of the games were indoors. Having football games outside is a fun experience and I don't think this new league can afford to be building suitable indoor stadiums.
March through June. And it's not like sports aren't played outdoors in July. August is a very hot month across the U.S., yet the NFL plays games outdoors in August.

Again, these guys are playing in the XFL because they don't have a shot at being drafted (speculation about this one player who could be notwithstanding) or getting a free agent contract.

The XFL's lane is simply not Hall of Fame game through SB.

Anyway, enough about the XFL... not watching anyway :hihi:
 

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I miss watching NFL Europe games as a kid, and kinda keeping tabs on which guys I liked and hoped they'd get moved up. Only watched a few XFL highlights this weekend though. Will maybe give it a shot...
 

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What you and others don't seem to realize these players are playing in the XFL because they can't make it or make it back into the NFL. McMahon didn't bring back the XFL to farm players to the NFL. The XFL needs players too. Scheduling an entire new league around the possibility that a couple of players could be called up by an NFL team doesn't seem reasonable.




March through June. And it's not like sports aren't played outdoors in July. August is a very hot month across the U.S., yet the NFL plays games outdoors in August.

Again, these guys are playing in the XFL because they don't have a shot at being drafted (speculation about this one player who could be notwithstanding) or getting a free agent contract.

The XFL's lane is simply not Hall of Fame game through SB.

Anyway, enough about the XFL... not watching anyway :hihi:
If they went with that, not only are they competing with training camp, they’re going up against the NBA playoffs.
 

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If they went with that, not only are they competing with training camp, they’re going up against the NBA playoffs.
Well, it's either March Madness or the NBA playoffs. But I think it's more because of being the slowest time of the year for the NFL. Regardless what anyone else thinks, I'm confident that the XFL management and front office are very intentional about avoiding stepping onto the NFL's turf and schedule.

As for players wanting to play in the NFL, it's not like the XFL has a choice. They're not gonna be able to prevent players from going if they're invited. It's a dollars and cents thing. There's no way the XFL can compete with the billions the NFL has. The XFL will have to build brand equity and provide an experience that is better than the NFL for it to grow.

After watching the games this weekend, I can honestly say that the viewing experience of the XFL is superior to that of the NFL. Game flow is better. Final 2 minutes of each half is better. Transparency is better. There's a lot to like about what they're doing to make them unique compared to the NFL, yet the game remains easy enough for casual fans to follow. It's a pretty good concept so far. Really hope it's sustainable.
 

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I meant to watch a game or 2. I got busy and forgot, only caught the tail end of the last game.

It's good insurance in case Roger, the Player's Union, Players or the TV networks decide to do something stupid. Ms. Gayle, make it happen!
 

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As for players wanting to play in the NFL, it's not like the XFL has a choice. They're not gonna be able to prevent players from going if they're invited. It's a dollars and cents thing. There's no way the XFL can compete with the billions the NFL has. The XFL will have to build brand equity and provide an experience that is better than the NFL for it to grow.
I think we’re going to see the salaries of NFL practice squad players go up. The days of being able to stash a QB on your practice squad for $8000 a week are probably coming to an end. Especially if the XFL offers that player 300k-400k to start for a team in a short season.
 

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