N/S: XFL TV ratings week 1 (1 Viewer)

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For those of you who watched the game, did you see any position(s) in particular that may have good enough quality players that some NFL teams will grab them? Thx muxh
 

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For those of you who watched the game, did you see any position(s) in particular that may have good enough quality players that some NFL teams will grab them? Thx muxh
There were a few. But, with it being the first game, it's hard to tell what's what. I think we won't know until these guys have several games under their belt.
 

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I think we’re going to see the salaries of NFL practice squad players go up. The days of being able to stash a QB on your practice squad for $8000 a week are probably coming to an end. Especially if the XFL offers that player 300k-400k to start for a team in a short season.
Doubt that. Right now even a max salary in the XFL doesn't reach the minimum practice squad weekly pay and the practice squad pay increases each year in the NFL.


 

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Most of those players want to get into the NFL. If the XFL becomes a direct competitor or hinders players from getting into the NFL, it’ll fail.
That coudl be one of the factors. Also I think they want to wrap things up before the NBA and NHL playoffs start, and also minimize the overlap with MLB. Since all of the cities also have at least one of the other big four sports.
 

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The players who signed with the XFL did so because they have no way into NFL: they didn't get drafted, weren't signed as UFRA's, tried out and got cut... Right now, the XFL is not an avenue leading to the NFL, is a player's last hope that maybe, just maybe, someone will notice them. The overwhelming majority of them will never even sniff an NFL training facility.
Thats pretty harsh. Every year 90 players per team get invited to NFL training camps, thats cut down to 53 + 8 practice squad players. Not to mention, players get cut and signed all the time before and during training camp, so in reality its more over 100 players that go through an NFL training camp, every year. So for those 50 some odd players who didn't make the final cut, and who aren't drawing a regular paycheck, the XFL could be pretty enticing, rather than going through camp again, getting cut and ending up with zilch.

So you have roughly 50 fringe players going through NFL training camp every year, per team * 32 teams, and XFL only has 8 teams. I would say the odds favor that more than 50% of current XFL players, have or will go through an NFL training camp at some point in their careers
 
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Thats pretty harsh.
May be, but it is true.

Every year 90 players per team get invited to NFL training camps, thats cut down to 53 + 8 practice squad players. Not to mention, players get cut and signed all the time before and during training camp, so in reality its more over 100 players that go through an NFL training camp, every year. So for those 50 some odd players who didn't make the final cut, and who aren't drawing a regular paycheck, the XFL could be pretty enticing, rather than going through camp again, getting cut and ending up with zilch.

So you have roughly 50 fringe players going through NFL training camp every year, per team * 32 teams, and XFL only has 8 teams. I would say the odds favor that more than 50% of current XFL players, have or will go through an NFL training camp at some point in their careers
There are a lot of things you are not considering, like the number of players with contracts, or the number of journeymen jumping from one team to another, and that many in the XFL can't get past being camp bodies. And the camp bodies, they've already been cut, so teams jknow more or less what the bring to the table.

When you look at any given roster, how many spots are really for grabs by players signed off the street?

Then you have players coming out of college (and cheap potential supersedes camp body), players in the CFL...
 

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May be, but it is true.



There are a lot of things you are not considering, like the number of players with contracts, or the number of journeymen jumping from one team to another, and that many in the XFL can't get past being camp bodies. And the camp bodies, they've already been cut, so teams jknow more or less what the bring to the table.

When you look at any given roster, how many spots are really for grabs by players signed off the street?

Then you have players coming out of college (and cheap potential supersedes camp body), players in the CFL...
Your claim of "overwhelming majority of XFL players not sniffing an NFL training facility" is not right. If you are a "camp body" as you say, hey guess what you do actually get access to an NFL training facility. I say the majority of XFL will, at some point in their careers, be signed to at least a reserve NFL contract - i.e, a "camp body" at least, if they haven't already. As to making the final 53 or even starting, well probably < 5% ever will.
 

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Your claim of "overwhelming majority of XFL players not sniffing an NFL training facility" is not right. If you are a "camp body" as you say, hey guess what you do actually get access to an NFL training facility. I say the majority of XFL will, at some point in their careers, be signed to at least a reserve NFL contract - i.e, a "camp body" at least, if they haven't already. As to making the final 53 or even starting, well probably < 5% ever will.
Great.

I hope the XFL can find players to fill 8 full rosters every year, since all of the XFL players are going to be drafted and/or signed by July to NFL rosters.
 

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Great.

I hope the XFL can find players to fill 8 full rosters every year, since all of the XFL players are going to be drafted and/or signed by July to NFL rosters.
And I think they'd be perfeclty OK with that. Play in the XFL, get signed to NFL team, get cut, play in the XFL next year ... If the XFL sticks around at some point the NFL may just allow those fringe guys to play in the XFL in the spring, in order to retain rights.
 

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I hope the XFL makes it just to throw a wrench in the NCAA/NFL’s monopoly. If a high school graduate or a junior college player is good enough to get paid to play pro football, he should be able to do that without having to wait til he’s 3 years out of high school.
 

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That coudl be one of the factors. Also I think they want to wrap things up before the NBA and NHL playoffs start, and also minimize the overlap with MLB. Since all of the cities also have at least one of the other big four sports.
I doubt MLB is a top priority now since it’s national coverage is basically gone.
I think they don’t want to compete with the NBA playoffs since ABC/ESPN air those.
 

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I doubt MLB is a top priority now since it’s national coverage is basically gone.
I think they don’t want to compete with the NBA playoffs since ABC/ESPN air those.
Yeah, this time of the year is a great time for access to the major networks because there's not a lot to compete with outside of March Madness. This is why we're seeing the games televised nationally, and not just opening weekend. This is a big deal imo because the model is probably sustainable if there is good access to it.
 

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If the league is a success then hopefully 2K make an XFL 2K game and start putting some pressure on EA to up their game when it comes to Madden or they’ll be coming for that license.
 

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