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Something equally impressive that I have not shot yet is this Magnum Research 45-70 revolver. Has a 10 inch barrel. Hoping to shoot that one this weekend.


 
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While I understand the disapproval of the language, guns are absolutely "toys" in the American Culture. People enjoy shooting, and some people do so competitively. His new gun is just as much a "toy" as a new side by side, or 500 horsepower project car. Any of these "toys" can kill if used improperly.

The only difference is that this "toy" is designed to be deadly.

So while I can appreciate the grumbles about the language, I can look past it and given Semper's background and training, I am comfortable saying he is likely a responsible gun owner.
And thank you for the compliment. Yes I am responsible. All of my guns are kept in a safe, stored separately from the ammunition. That safe is inside of another room with brick walls and a locked metal door. I do not keep any loaded guns laying around the house etc. My grandchildren visit often and I take zero chances with their safety.
 

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Congrats on doing your part to encourage the manufacture of more guns.
 
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Hoplophobia... my new favorite word. 5:46am and I have already learned something new. Thank you Saint77.
 

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Congratulations on your Hoplophobia, I hope it serves you well.

I was in the Army and like to hunt.

Just because I don't have a gun fettish doesn't mean I'm afraid of them.

Every illegally purchased gun started out as a legally manufactured gun.

Buying guns as "toys" encourages the manufacture of excess guns, many of which end up in the hands of criminals.
 
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I was in the Army and like to hunt.

Just because I don't have a gun fettish doesn't mean I'm afraid of them.

Every illegally purchased gun started out as a legally manufactured gun.

Buying guns as "toys" encourages the manufacture of excess guns, many of which end up in the hands of criminals.
So how many guns am I allowed to own? I have guns from 1878 all the way up to this year. I appreciate each of them. I use them for fun at the range and to hunt. They are also a part of history. I enjoy reading about them.
 

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Hoplophobia... my new favorite word. 5:46am and I have already learned something new. Thank you Saint77.
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Theres a lot of it going on around here, lol.

I was in the Army and like to hunt.

Just because I don't have a gun fettish doesn't mean I'm afraid of them.

Every illegally purchased gun started out as a legally manufactured gun.

Buying guns as "toys" encourages the manufacture of excess guns, many of which end up in the hands of criminals.

I was never in the armed services and I do not like to hunt, just not my thing. I honestly had a range of emotions on them that went from fear of them, to dont need to have one. I in fact never touched a firearm, until I was introduced to the wrong end of one by a criminal who most likely got his gun illegally, and the age of 36. bought my first one at 38. I now have 11, including 6 firearms from WW2, all have very unique and interesting places in history. Interesting how you and I came from the opposite spectrum to have opposite philosophies on the subject.

So are you telling me I shouldn't purchase any other style or type of weapon because it will encourage more manufacture? as if I am somehow reasonable or culpable for how some one else uses an ill gotten firearm?

I dont have a "fettish" for guns, and i suspect Semper does not either. some of us view firearm ownership and collection as a hobby. they are tools, and weapons both. intricate machinery style tools, and weapons. some collect knives, some collect other historical non firearm weaponry, others like firearms. to us, in this context. calling one a new "toy" is completely acceptable. How is this to be construed as a fettish? why is it you folks on the anti gun side see no grey areas? either we have a fettish, or we dont? nothing in between?
 

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So are you telling me I shouldn't purchase any other style or type of weapon because it will encourage more manufacture? as if I am somehow reasonable or culpable for how some one else uses an ill gotten firearm?

I dont have a "fettish" for guns, and i suspect Semper does not either. some of us view firearm ownership and collection as a hobby. they are tools, and weapons both. intricate machinery style tools, and weapons. some collect knives, some collect other historical non firearm weaponry, others like firearms. to us, in this context. calling one a new "toy" is completely acceptable. How is this to be construed as a fettish? why is it you folks on the anti gun side see no grey areas? either we have a fettish, or we dont? nothing in between?
I am saying that we have a problem in the United States. There are too many firearms.

Every illegally purchased gun was manufactured legally. Every gun used in a crime was manufactured legally. Every illegally purcahsed gun used in a crime was sold legally the first time it was sold.

I am not anti gun. I just think that 300 million guns is too many. I don't think we need any more.

I think that you are an example of people who have a perverted view of the second amendment. I think that people like you are a victim of the NRA's shilling for gun manufacturers.

Antique guns are an entirely different matter, but there isn't any reason to have more than one or two firearms for protection. Any more than that and you are just making your family more susceptible to being harmed by a firearm.

I think that you have a consitutional right to have as many guns as you want, i also think that you and others who have a perverted view of that right are one part of a larger problem.
 
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I cant have just a couple guns for defense... jeez there are guns for different seasons. I cant carry a full size 1911 in shorts and a tshirt for instance. If I am at a wedding I need something small like my Sig P938. When I am hunting I carry a Ruger Super Redhawk in 44 Mag. When I go to the range I like to bring it all.

Just picked up 2 new ones last week. A S&W Mod 19 in 357, and a Ruger Single Six in .22lr and mag.
 

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I am saying that we have a problem in the United States. There are too many firearms.

Every illegally purchased gun was manufactured legally. Every gun used in a crime was manufactured legally. Every illegally purcahsed gun used in a crime was sold legally the first time it was sold.

I am not anti gun. I just think that 300 million guns is too many. I don't think we need any more.

I think that you are an example of people who have a perverted view of the second amendment. I think that people like you are a victim of the NRA's shilling for gun manufacturers.

Antique guns are an entirely different matter, but there isn't any reason to have more than one or two firearms for protection. Any more than that and you are just making your family more susceptible to being harmed by a firearm.

I think that you have a constitutional right to have as many guns as you want, i also think that you and others who have a perverted view of that right are one part of a larger problem.
Your assumptions about my families safety due to more arms in the house is speculation.

Theres plenty of reason to have more then 2, or even three. You should do your research on the various techniques of dress and conceal carry. No one gun fits all weather situations, or social situation.

I dont have a perverted view of anything. I have a clear view now, that ive experienced firearm violence firsthand, and had to save my own wife's life from a gunshot wound. I had my head up my *** courtesy of a very liberal democrat family who hated and feared firearms, and instilled that irrational fear in me in the first half of my life. I add my experiences together with a logical grasp of the 2A, and im sleep fine at night.

My firearms experience has 0 to do with the NRA. I am not a member, nor do I typically ascribe to their advice. If any, I prefer the GOA, they get more done then you might expect. and frankly, I dont have as much of a problem with the NRA as you might. some one has to counter the idiocy and stupidity of people like Micheal Bloomberg and organizations such as the Brady Campaign.
 

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Your assumptions about my families safety due to more arms in the house is speculation.

Theres plenty of reason to have more then 2, or even three. You should do your research on the various techniques of dress and conceal carry. No one gun fits all weather situations, or social situation.

I dont have a perverted view of anything. I have a clear view now, that ive experienced firearm violence firsthand, and had to save my own wife's life from a gunshot wound. I had my head up my *** courtesy of a very liberal democrat family who hated and feared firearms, and instilled that irrational fear in me in the first half of my life. I add my experiences together with a logical grasp of the 2A, and im sleep fine at night.

My firearms experience has 0 to do with the NRA. I am not a member, nor do I typically ascribe to their advice. If any, I prefer the GOA, they get more done then you might expect. and frankly, I dont have as much of a problem with the NRA as you might. some one has to counter the idiocy and stupidity of people like Micheal Bloomberg and organizations such as the Brady Campaign.

The fact that you have experienced firearms violence first hand doesn't make your view clearer, it distorts it.
 

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I cant have just a couple guns for defense... jeez there are guns for different seasons. I cant carry a full size 1911 in shorts and a tshirt for instance. If I am at a wedding I need something small like my Sig P938. When I am hunting I carry a Ruger Super Redhawk in 44 Mag. When I go to the range I like to bring it all.

Just picked up 2 new ones last week. A S&W Mod 19 in 357, and a Ruger Single Six in .22lr and mag.
Do you have any idea what this sounds like to a reasonable objective person?
 

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The fact that you have experienced firearms violence first hand doesn't make your view clearer, it distorts it.

Ok, ill bite. you seem to have taken a pair of my shoes and walked in them for a while. elaborate please. This should be interesting.
 

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