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Don't push this theory too hard. We got a lot of good calls to win the storybook 2009 NFCCG.
Fellow Saints' fan brother (or sister), if you don't see how this actually proves what we are saying, I don't know what else to tell you!
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Don't push this theory too hard. We got a lot of good calls to win the storybook 2009 NFCCG.
It's scary that so many people think the NFL is rigged.
Our politics has poisoned our minds.
We don't believe anything anymore.
Having said that, if he was going to get flagged, Fairley should have done a lot better job body slamming the guy.
Welcome to being enlightened.
If you bet football, you'll never look at the NFL the same again once you start to see things through that lens. Once your eyes are open, you can never go back. It sucks knowing with 75% or so confidence before a Saints game whether we'll win or lose. But it is what it is. I made a thread before our last Falcons game breaking down the line movement and why Falcons +3.5 was being telegraphed. Got about 50 red-thumbs, but what happened? Falcons covered easily.
If I did not bet, I would not watch the NFL anymore. The product itself sucks now, mainly because of the officiating and over-saturation.
Some might ask "well, if they are influencing games, why would you bet on it!?" I bet on games precisely because they influence games. It's the only way you can really make money. You just learn to know what to look for in regards to lines, movement, and trends. If the games were just straight-up/matchup related, I wouldn't bet because it would make it much tougher.
The level to which you believe the NFL is corrupt may vary. Some just think they want to keep games close (how anyone could deny that I don't know). Some think they just influence certain games. Some believe in larger conspiracies.
Either way, what's refreshing is that it seems like most at least are waking up to the fact that something is going on.
And there are multiple angles at play here. Gambling, ratings, and favoritism with the larger fanbases. This is a salary cap league, which should be a level paying field, yet almost all the big fanbases never stay bad for long while the smaller market teams rarely sustain success. Funny how that works. Funny how when Vegas needs a game to pay, they almost always seem to get it. Some will continue to stick their heads in the sand though.
It's scary that so many people think the NFL is rigged.
Our politics has poisoned our minds.
We don't believe anything anymore.
I was chatting with my brother and he said there is an article regarding a study that basically said it only takes 4-5 calls to greatly influence the outcome of a sporting event. These calls may not be blatantly bias calls. They are often the 50/50 calls that are in favor of one team over another. Against the Chiefs, we kept getting drive killing calls against us and they had very little calls against them. On one of our penalties, the flag was throw AFTER we picked up the first down. It was pretty bad.
I tried to find the article, but it is tough to pinpoint the criteria in a google search. Maybe someone else will have better luck.
The refs can help but they can't do it alone. They can stall a drive or allow one to continue but that doesn't control the entire game. You have to have to someone not wearing a striped shirt in on it. You don't need nearly the amount of people in on a fix that some would have you believe.
The problem with conspiracy theories is that they can never be proved or disproved. Conspiracy theories evolve because the facts don't agree with certain folks belief system. I will leave with one thought regarding all this. If the system is rigged, how come, with all the information media out there, not one NFL, MLB, NBA, or NHL person has ever stepped up to avow such a rigged sports system? Do the research and prove me wrong.
Surviving Saint answered your question before you even posed it.
"You don't need nearly the amount of people in on a fix that some would have you believe"
One official per crew would be plenty. For instance, the Back Judge who can see and call a defensive secondary penalty on virtually every play. All he has to do is make small 50/50 calls on critical downs.
Other people already have done the research, it's out there, you simply have to search and read with an open mind.
All this, the state of the league, the overall declining quality of the product and the poor officiating etc. is definitely the big factor. It's never been as exciting or interesting to me since so clearly getting scapegoated by Goodell with the "Bounty" gate thing. Feels like yet another corrupted American institution and has lefta lingering bad taste.Not really. I haven't watched the last two Saints games. I have them on DVR and still haven't watched them. Decided to go play Golf last Sunday. Sunday before that I was on a flight. This is coming from someone that has spent the last 10 years watching the redzone channel on one tv and the Saints game on the other.
It's just not the same.
Threads like these used to get red thumbed and one starred to death. Now, not a red thumb to be found and 5 stars. There is little doubt the games are being over officiated and money is the best player in the league.
All this, the state of the league, the overall declining quality of the product and the poor officiating etc. is definitely the big factor. It's never been as exciting or interesting to me since so clearly getting scapegoated by Goodell with the "Bounty" gate thing. Feels like yet another corrupted American institution and has lefta lingering bad taste.
BountyGate was all the proof I needed that this whole thing was rotten. I lost a lot of my football fandom in 2012.
I could look past the Saints' issues and even the NFL product issues, but not the corruption.
Heck, I even found myself sarcastically snarking at the TV at the end of the Chiefs game last week. 5 years ago, I would have been yelling, pacing, screaming, & jumping.
I now simply sit, slightly slumped, and sarcastically snark at the sinister shenanigans that are sloppily submitted for our sucking up.