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With our luck we’ll get the 2 Seed next year and get bounced by the 7 seed.
If that happens then we deserve what we get. As good as some people around here insist we are, we've now gone eight straight playoff games without being able to win convincingly. Our last playoff victory that wasn't a coin-flip going into the final minute was against the Lions in the 2011 season.
 

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Did this year’s playoffs really need the 8-8 Steelers or the 9-7 Rams?

Going back 10 years, there’s an occasional 10-6 team making it, but for the most part it’s just adding a 9-7 or 8-8 team.
 

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@LiterOCola do you really think Saints fans are gonna be saying the seventh playoff spot is BS if we end up being it one year?
yea, I would. The playoffs don’t need more mediocre teams skating in, even if it’s the Saints. It’s already bad enough that an occasional 7-9 team sneaks in because their division is a dumpster fire.
 

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Fun fact, in 1990, the first year the playoff field was increased from 5 teams to 6, the Saints made the playoffs as a really lackluster 6th seed with a record of 8-8.
Also, fitting in nicely with the angle that this is being done to improve the Cowboys' playoff chances, they would've snuck in at 7-9 in 1990 had we lost our final game on MNF against the Rams. But there's no way in hell the NFL would've had that motive at that point in time since they were coming off a 1-15 season. I just like the amusing coincidence.
 

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Let me clarify my post. Although the last part of the post was talking about what I think the NFL will do (based on precedent), the first part was just me straight up saying that we have enough bad teams already so why would you want an even more watered-down product, not whether or not I think the league would do it since I agree with you that money fuels their every decision with zero regard for its legacy.



Let's take it a step further and make each playoff round a best of seven. Not seven games though cuz that would take too long. Both teams will play one 15 minute quarter against each other every two days.
I think the bolded part is a misconception in all of this. You're really not watering anything down when you go and look at the historic data as far as the quality of the #7 team versus the quality of the #4 team. If anything, you're adding a more worthy team to the mix in a lot of years (not all years, but most).

I'm doing the research right now, and it seems like annually where a good 9-7/10-6 or even 11-5 team gets left out in favor of an inferior #4 division winner. 2010 really stands out as a crazy year, where the infamous 7-9 Seahawks hosted a playoff game while the 10-6 Giants and Bucs sat at home. And in the Giants case, they had the same record as the NFC East's division winner that year.
 

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I think the bolded part is a misconception in all of this. You're really not watering anything down when you go and look at the historic data as far as the quality of the #7 team versus the quality of the #4 team. If anything, you're adding a more worthy team to the mix in a lot of years (not all years, but most).

I'm doing the research right now, and it seems like annually where a good 9-7/10-6 or even 11-5 team gets left out in favor of an inferior #4 division winner. 2010 really stands out as a crazy year, where the infamous 7-9 Seahawks hosted a playoff game while the 10-6 Giants and Bucs sat at home. And in the Giants case, they had the same record as the NFC East's division winner that year.
No dude, I meant adding 4-8 more teams will water the product down further. I wasn't referring to the #7 seed.
 

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Oh it’s plenty broke.... these morons are just “fixing” the wrong things!
That’s what I meant.

They’re so focused on manufacturing high scores, dramatic storylines, eliminating the most iconic play in the game, international games, expanded season, and expanded playoffs that we won’t ever get things fans actually want: consistent and accountable officiating.
 

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No dude, I meant adding 4-8 more teams will water the product down further. I wasn't referring to the #7 seed.
10-4, thanks for clarifying.

And yes, adding 4 to 8 teams would kill the product. That's literally 200 to 400 players currently on rosters being reallocated to other teams. To illustrate, imagine the Saints with 6 to 12 fewer of their players being replaced by 6 to 12 bottom of the roster type players. And it wouldn't just be 6 to 12 of the bottom of the roster types you'd be giving up. No, it would be a combination of like 1 to 3 big time players + 4 to 6 average/decent starter-types + 1 to 3 bottom of the roster types being removed.

Not to mention your draft odds go way down. I.E. your chances of finding guys that won't bust goes down significantly, further weakening the pipeline.
 

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No offense but I have zero compassion for people who try to express their betting woes as actual sports fan problems. I see it like this:

A. You could just not bet so that way you'll only need to worry about the outcome of games involving teams you have a sincere rooting interest in.

B. If losing those bets has such a significant impact on your life then you're an idiot for continuing to participate in a system proven to just rip off the average joe.

C. If the lost bets aren't actually harming your livelihood then you're just overreacting.


Sorry if I sounded like a butt crevasse. I just will never understand why people take something that's already as completely out of their own control and prone to fixing and likely to result in grief as sports is and pour further gas on that flame by letting their own finances become entwined with it.
Yeah, you sound like a real butt crevasse, since I was talking about my childhood and my Dad, not myself.
I'm Dadsdream because my father was a Saints fan for 20 years and didn't live to see them win a playoff game, much less a Super Bowl.
Oh, well, here's dreaming of another Saints Super Bowl this year!
 
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I kind of like it, byes in football is too strong, then 2 teams each conference was getting them almost insuring thats who was going to get matched up in the title games.

Before anyone tells me about how many times a bye team has lost in the divisional, need I also state that because they have rested the team far too long prior to the next game, like Baltimore.

Theirs also dangerous teams left out of that 7th seed, like one person stated in my post about the SB matchups, theirs just not that much difference between a 10-6 team and 13-3 team, that 10-6 team had hard schedule, but will be at disadvantage playing at the 13-3 one.

What I will find funny to make these shenanigans backfire is the 7th seed AFC team that gets in.
 

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