N/S NFL Explores How Marijuana And CBD Can Be Used As Opioid Alternatives For Players (1 Viewer)

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I think the fact that there are no deaths from marijuana at any time in the history of the Earth and millions of deaths every year from every other drug and alcohol combined should be taught to every child in school. The truth will set everybody free.
 

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fun fact: ye ol' mary jane used to be legal in this country, then you have a compelling argument that the reason laws were passed to make it illegal was due to racism.
History agrees with your statement: Anti-immigration sentiments toward Mexican Americans and Mexican migrant farm workers during the Great Depression led the feds to make it illegal in the late 1930s. The basis was politically based, not science based.

Recreational cannabis consumption was prominent in migrant/working class Mexican culture. The goal was to criminalize cannabis and deport offenders. Farmers in the SW could originally pay a permit fee to grow hemp and cannabis plants for non recreational products, but governments would not approve permits for Mexican-American farmers. Then the ban, then aggressive policing and deportations.
 
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The only addiction to pot is mental, as is the case with meth, coke or whatever. The issue here is the fable that pot treats pain on the same level as opiates. I cannot see a player who just had knee surgery forgoing his pain medication for pot. They will do them together but never as the primary means of pain control. On other words, if you want to let players smoke pot...Great. They are adults and capable of making their own decisions. Just don't sell it as an alternate means of pain control for football injuries.
I believe that meth and coke are physically addicting. You are correct about weed.
 

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fun fact: ye ol' mary jane used to be legal in this country, then you have a compelling argument that the reason laws were passed to make it illegal was due to racism.
I had three white friends arrested for possession and distribution. I guess those cops did not et the memo.
 

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Josh Gordon be like ....

Before I even opened the thread I thought Josh Gordon, lol
 

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I had three white friends arrested for possession and distribution. I guess those cops did not et the memo.
The racist origins of marijuana prohibition

As early as the 1800s, there were no federal restrictions on the sale or possession of cannabis in the US. Hemp fiber from the plant was used to make clothes, paper, and rope. Sometimes it was used medicinally, but as a recreational drug, it wasn't that widespread. A New York Times article from 1876 even cites the positive use of cannabis to cure a patient's dropsy. Basically swelling from an accumulation of fluid.

In the early 1900s, an influx of Mexican immigrants came to the US fleeing political unrest in their home country. With them, they brought the practice of smoking cannabis recreationally. And it took off. The Spanish word for the plant started to be used more often too. Marijuana. Or as it was spelled at that time, marihuana, with an "H. This is when the more sensational headlines about the drug began to appear.

In 1936, a propaganda film called Reefer Madness was released. In the movie, teenagers smoke weed for the first time and this leads to a series of horrific events involving hallucination, attempted rape, and murder. Much of the media portrayed it as a gateway drug.

- [Reporter] Marijuana, a powerful excitant, produces unpredictable emotional results. But its greatest danger lies in the fact that it is a stepping stone to the harder drugs such as morphine and heroin.

Narrator: The following year in 1937, the Marihuana Tax Act was passed. Cannabis sales were now taxed. Part of the reason this act was passed was because of all the fear-mongering going on at the time. And a huge instigator of that fear-mongering was the man behind the Marihuana Tax Act, Harry Anslinger. Anslinger was named the Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics during the prohibition era. But once national prohibition ended in 1933, Anslinger turned his focus to marijuana. This is when racism and xenophobia really kicked in.

Harry Anslinger took the scientifically unsupported idea of marijuana as a violence-inducing drug, connected it to black and Hispanic people, and created a perfect package of terror to sell to the American media and public. By emphasizing the Spanish word marihuana instead of cannabis, he created a strong association between the drug and the newly arrived Mexican immigrants who helped popularize it in the States. He also created a narrative around the idea that cannabis made black people forget their place in society. He pushed the idea that jazz was evil music created by people under the influence of marijuana.

But these racist ideas didn't just influence the media's portrayal or the public's perception of the drug, the discrimination they encouraged was evident in real numbers. In the first full year after the Marihuana Tax Act was passed, black people were about three times more likely to be arrested for violating narcotic drug laws than whites. And Mexicans were nearly nine times more likely to be arrested for the same charge.
 

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That's cool and all just as long as they DO NOT start with edibles or weed gummies.
lol I don't do edibles anymore. Not because its bad, but because it's too good. When I got in the program I started with edibles and it helped me very much with pain. As my body began to heal, the edibles seemed more potent, so I downgraded to flower. But if you think gummies and cookies are potent, dont try "RSO" (Rick Simpson oil). That stuff is great for Cancer patients and people dealing with extreme pain. But I don't recommend it unless you have a high tolerance.
 

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Alcohol does do the same thing. It is also a drug.
i think you missed my point about the silly ‘gateway drug’ argument about weed...alcohol can be found in nearly every home in this country...

how many parents have given their children a little sip of beer? People just ignore this because alcohol is legal and socially acceptable...but the reality is that booze is one of the most dangerous and addictive drugs out there...i speak from experience
 

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i think you missed my point about the silly ‘gateway drug’ argument about weed...alcohol can be found in nearly every home in this country...

how many parents have given their children a little sip of beer? People just ignore this because alcohol is legal and socially acceptable...but the reality is that booze is one of the most dangerous and addictive drugs out there...i speak from experience
My Father-in-law loss his son to a drunk driver who t-boned him at over 80 mph. The guy was tore up in court and admitted to his alcohol addiction. His family was very nice and my in-laws were very forgiving considering the young man had no criminal past, seemed very remorseful, and was willing to do life for his actions. With support of both families, the judge sentenced him to 10 years for vehicular homicide. At the time we all felt it to be a fair sentence and hoped that the young man would take advantage of a second chance with the possibility of going home after 5 years. He in fact did 5 years and was releases in 2009 looking far different than he had during the trail. He seemed to have matured and changed his outlook on life.
Well in 2011 he was arrested for driving under the influence and destruction of property when he drove into someones side yard and destroyed their kid's trampoline and bikes.(what if the kids were out there?) Alcohol has ruined his life and his need for it overwhelms his ability to learn from past mistakes. He was probably a good kid, but his addiction has caused more damage to people than weed could ever. IJS
 

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I think the fact that there are no deaths from marijuana at any time in the history of the Earth and millions of deaths every year from every other drug and alcohol combined should be taught to every child in school. The truth will set everybody free.
Maybe my experiences are different. In my 20 years or so speaking to black, white, rich, poor, inner city and rural druggies and to school kids, I fine common denominators: don't start with weed. I have had many kids tell me how they and relative have died or been maimed while on weed. I have 6 friends and family members that did. So your statistics are wrong. People die on weed just like booze. Doing things that should not have been. It's called impaired judgement. So your off hand comments would not be appreciated by survivors and victims. That's my truth that set me and a bunch of others free.
 

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Maybe my experiences are different. In my 20 years or so speaking to black, white, rich, poor, inner city and rural druggies and to school kids, I fine common denominators: don't start with weed. I have had many kids tell me how they and relative have died or been maimed while on weed. I have 6 friends and family members that did. So your statistics are wrong. People die on weed just like booze. Doing things that should not have been. It's called impaired judgement. So your off hand comments would not be appreciated by survivors and victims. That's my truth that set me and a bunch of others free.
you very often have anecdotes that run entirely counter to science, data, and/or common sense
it's an amazing life you lead
 

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This may be the Libertarian in me speaking but as long as someone's behavior does not limit my liberties or the liberties and health of others then what someone does to themselves is none of my business. Buying marijuana from cartels is bad, buying it from a local grown farmer is good. Pretty simple.
 

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lol I don't do edibles anymore. Not because its bad, but because it's too good. When I got in the program I started with edibles and it helped me very much with pain. As my body began to heal, the edibles seemed more potent, so I downgraded to flower. But if you think gummies and cookies are potent, dont try "RSO" (Rick Simpson oil). That stuff is great for Cancer patients and people dealing with extreme pain. But I don't recommend it unless you have a high tolerance.
As w/everything else, there are dosage/tolerance requirements. There are many low potency edibles out there & many recipes to allow you to make your meds(to your personal levels). RSO(Phoenix Tears) is NEVER intended for rec use. It was developed specifically for treatment. I've produced it for 3 people over the years, 1 for prostate cancer(in remission), 2 for breast cancer(1 was way late in the 4th stage & used only for palliative relief, the other is also in remission). It is intended to titrate up from 1/3 size of a grain of rice to 3 full grain size 3x a day(over a week -10 days), in a course for 60+ days.

Another major racists component was to "stop black jazz musicians from raping white women" & causing violent destruction.

On a commercial level, Hearst was a major supporter of Anslinger. He had purchased a HUGE forest track for paper making & invested heavily in Dupont's recently released petroleum based ink, looking to replace nitrocellulose ink(from hemp). So, 1 the original "yellow journalism rag" was instrumental in the "Reefer Madness" fearmongering(all for profit!).

The year before the actions were taken, there was an article in Popular Mechanics introducing a new retting machine for hemp. This would have allowed farmers to cut harvest/processing time over 30%. The term "marijuana" is a slang term that was only used by people in northern Mexico. The medical community called it Hemp, India Hemp or Cannabis. It is the MOST used/prescribed medicine in WORLD HISTORY! The AMA had no idea that the hearings were on Cannabis. They were told the evening before the last day of testimony. Despite their objections the drug warriors won the day & US been has been lied to/castigated/jailed.

All of this, & much more, info is readily available to those whose minds are open to facts & not crammed w/BS.
 

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There's also evidence that psychedelics can help with brain injuries. With all the CTE concerns it should seriously be considered. https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2019/1/niz003/5475888


THC/CBD over opioids is a no brainer and has been gaining traction although at an agonizingly slow rate
 

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