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Horrendous line change by Tampa on that OT goal for the Avs

But I’m fairly certain that Colorado should have been whistled for “too many man on the ice” just prior to the OT goal. MacKinnon was nowhere near the bench when Kadri took to the ice.
 
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Watching the Avs this season and post-season it's apparent the Lightning are doing something to really slow them down/take them off their game. The past 2 games they haven't looked like themselves and were just getting outworked, outplayed amd outhustled. I've not seen that happen 2 games in a row - they usually are so fast, so sharp with their passing, play great defense, and keep tremendous offensive pressure on throughout the entire game. I never thought I'd see them get out shot 17-4 in a period. The Lightning have made some great adjustments.

Or it's just the ice is garbage.😄
 

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Horrendous line change by Tampa on that OT goal for the Avs

But I’m fairly certain that Colorado should have been whistled for “too many man on the ice” just prior to the OT goal. MacKinnon was nowhere near the bench when Kadri took to the ice.
As you probably saw, the officials swallowed their whistles in the 3rd and OT. Trips not called, boarding not called, too many men not called. It's just the way I like playoff hockey. The NHL officials are polar opposites of the NFL officials.
 

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I get what you’re saying. I know several AHL officials and 1 NHL official (not working the finals) and I get they try to let the players decide the outcome, especially late in games, but that was WAY beyond the limits of a line change. The NHL’s response to the situation was less than satisfactory.

I guess it just equals a “bang bang” play against the Saints that, we won’t revisit.

Tampa’s shoddy line change probably played more of a role in the outcome, but that non-call was bad and the NHL’s response was even worse.
 

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"Two former NHL referees contacted by The Athletic who examined the video said that in their opinion this play wasn’t too many men. One former linesman said that while it’s close, loose line changes happen all the time and very few officials would have blown a play like this dead in overtime. He also noted that the Lightning had seven players on the ice, including two players at the bench, like MacKinnon, with the players who came on for them also engaged in the play."

 

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According to the NHL Rule Book, players may be changed at any time during play, provided that they are within five feet of the bench and not in the play when the change is made. “At the discretion of the on-ice officials, should a substituting player come onto the ice before his teammate is within the five foot limit of the players’ bench (and therefore clearly causing his team to have too many players), then a bench minor penalty may be assessed. When a player is retiring from the ice surface and is within the five foot limit of his players’ bench, and his substitute is on the ice, then the retiring player shall be considered off the ice. If in the course of making a substitution, either the player entering the game or the player retiring plays the puck or who checks or makes any physical contact with an opposing player while both players involved in the substitution are on the ice, then the infraction of ‘too many men on the ice’ will be called.”

Two former NHL referees contacted by The Athletic who examined the video said that in their opinion this play wasn’t too many men. One former linesman said that while it’s close, loose line changes happen all the time and very few officials would have blown a play like this dead in overtime. He also noted that the Lightning had seven players on the ice, including two players at the bench, like MacKinnon, with the players who came on for them also engaged in the play.
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Ironically, last postseason, the Lightning’s Ondrej Palat scored a goal in Game 2 of Tampa Bay’s playoff series against the New York Islanders with seven players in the play. The officials missed it, and the goal counted.
 

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Not buying the “loose line changes” excuse, but it’s done.

Upon further review, Tampa totally botched that line change with too many men and still f-d it up.

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Two soft goals given up by Kuemper tonight. He's going to single-handedly keep Tampa in this series.
 

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This thread being ghosted or something? I have to navigate several back alleys just to find it in EE

Never mind. I figured it out…
 
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