NO RUN DRC !?!? What do you think? (1 Viewer)

[PaulinP]

Okay, I was extremely impressed with DRC, at first. I only saw his senior bowl and combine info and video; and at that point, there was no doubt in my mind, "That's the guy I want the Saints to get, the next Champ Baily." Then I started thinking about the benefits of others instead of DRC; especially Rivers, Ellis, and Dorsey- in that order.
After that, I started comparing them to DRC. Once looking at starts, reports, ...; I realized something. DO NOT DRAFT HIM!!! I think he is a very talented player and athlete, but I do not think that he is even close to a #10 pick. He never had an outstanding season or career against any quality players; that's why no one heard of him until a couple months ago, and HE WAS NOT EVEN PLAYING PRACTICE SQUAD CALIBER REVIEVERS.
With a few years of practice he could one day be great. I just think that we should address other needs like DT and OLB. Those positions would improve our slightly above average secondary, when healthy, and make it into a pretty good seconday. I would rather a 2nd or 3rd round corner, or another free agent or trade: Lito, hell I would go for Pacman.

Just some thoughts. What you think.

 

[d3vanj]

i think the reason he is conscidered a top 10 pick is because of his domination at the senior bowl, and he was named defensive MVP and he was best in like 5 of the drills at the combine out of all the DBs. he has so much upside, but can he tap into it?

in the meantime, keith rivers with 73 tackles compared to lofton and mayo who are possible 2nd rounders who had over 140
why rivers? what has he done thats so dominant?

 

[Pdlc]

When was the last time the Saints have picked a fan favorite in the first round?

No way the Saints pick DRC

 

[dat dam dog]

Okay, I was extremely impressed with DRC, at first. I only saw his senior bowl and combine info and video; and at that point, there was no doubt in my mind, "That's the guy I want the Saints to get, the next Champ Baily." Then I started thinking about the benefits of others instead of DRC; especially Rivers, Ellis, and Dorsey- in that order.
After that, I started comparing them to DRC. Once looking at starts, reports, ...; I realized something. DO NOT DRAFT HIM!!! I think he is a very talented player and athlete, but I do not think that he is even close to a #10 pick. He never had an outstanding season or career against any quality players; that's why no one heard of him until a couple months ago, and HE WAS NOT EVEN PLAYING PRACTICE SQUAD CALIBER REVIEVERS.
With a few years of practice he could one day be great. I just think that we should address other needs like DT and OLB. Those positions would improve our slightly above average secondary, when healthy, and make it into a pretty good seconday. I would rather a 2nd or 3rd round corner, or another free agent or trade: Lito, hell I would go for Pacman.

Just some thoughts. What you think.

Well Paul, I pretty much agree with you. But you're gonna get killed here for suggesting even a remote possibilty that DRC is not the greatest CB that ever played!

As for the other post, Rivers, this is tough to explain but players surrounded by a great team, think Ellis and 9 other good players, just don't have the stats like guys on poor teams, who are practically one man teams themselves. Ah, I can't explain it.


ddd

 

[PaulinP]

I just think that was the way their defense performed. It had plenty of other amazing players that wold get to the ball before he would...6 other players with over 50 tackles. He is an athletic freak.

 

[d3vanj]

I just think that was the way their defense performed. It had plenty of other amazing players that wold get to the ball before he would...6 other players with over 50 tackles. He is an athletic freak.

athletic freak?

DRC:

2007-08 Senior Bowl Defensive MVP

2008 Combine Cornerbacks:
Vertical Jump: 38.5 (1st)
Broad Jump: 10'11" (1st)
3-Cone Drill: 6.74 time (1st)
50 Yard Shuttle: 11.06 time (1st)

40 Yard Dash: 4.28 (fastest) 4.33 (average)

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[RSF Grace]

I am holding out hope that Leodis McKelvin is available at 10 AND we draft him.

 

[nolastyle]

If the only question you can raise about DRC is level of competition, I think he'll be sitting pretty good during the draft. He was a Division II All American, which means he DID dominate his level of play. He may not have been playing against elite WRs, but if that is a requirement of a good corner, 90% of college CBs will fall flat. He also dominated the Senior Bowl, which was against pretty good WRs.

A few names to throw out here. Walter Payton, Terry Bradshaw, Darrell Green, Marhsall Faulk, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, and Willie Roaf. Not saying that DRC will come close to any of them, but all came from small schools and made it big in the NFL. There could be many reasons why he didn't go to a BCS program: grades, personal reasons, etc.

 

[d3vanj]

If the only question you can raise about DRC is level of competition, I think he'll be sitting pretty good during the draft. He was a Division II All American, which means he DID dominate his level of play. He may not have been playing against elite WRs, but if that is a requirement of a good corner, 90% of college CBs will fall flat. He also dominated the Senior Bowl, which was against pretty good WRs.

A few names to throw out here. Walter Payton, Terry Bradshaw, Darrell Green, Marhsall Faulk, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, and Willie Roaf. Not saying that DRC will come close to any of them, but all came from small schools and made it big in the NFL. There could be many reasons why he didn't go to a BCS program: grades, personal reasons, etc.

exactly, and when some of them were coming out plenty of people were opposed to drafting them because they came from small schools and iffy competition

 

[CCL36]

If the only question you can raise about DRC is level of competition, I think he'll be sitting pretty good during the draft. He was a Division II All American, which means he DID dominate his level of play. He may not have been playing against elite WRs, but if that is a requirement of a good corner, 90% of college CBs will fall flat. He also dominated the Senior Bowl, which was against pretty good WRs.

A few names to throw out here. Walter Payton, Terry Bradshaw, Darrell Green, Marhsall Faulk, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, and Willie Roaf. Not saying that DRC will come close to any of them, but all came from small schools and made it big in the NFL. There could be many reasons why he didn't go to a BCS program: grades, personal reasons, etc.

DRC might be great but to down the criticism of "level of competition" is either bias or lack of understanding. Remember all your high school "superstars" that couldn't even sniff a D1 scout team.

 

[dat dam dog]

Well Paul, I pretty much agree with you. But you're gonna get killed here for suggesting even a remote possibilty that DRC is not the greatest CB that ever played!


ddd

Hang tough there Paul, keep your head down!

I warned you that you'd get killed on this one.

Keep quiet, and get out of here under cover of darkness!


ddd

 

[bobad]

Division II All American, which means he DID dominate his level of play.

Lack of stats can be misleading. I'm sure he wasn't thrown at very much.

 

[Ti Rider]

When was the last time the Saints have picked a fan favorite in the first round?

No way the Saints pick DRC

Yes, who saw Meachem coming last year? Few if any. We can speculate all we want but in the end the Saints scouting department and Mickey Loomis are making the calls. We'll be screaming for our favorites and they'll pick someone like Kentwan Balmer, Antone Cason, or Kenny Phillips. Then you just have to trust that the FO knows who exactly will fit our system and who won't.

 

[canuckredux]

in the meantime, keith rivers with 73 tackles compared to lofton and mayo who are possible 2nd rounders who had over 140
why rivers? what has he done thats so dominant?

You answered your own question. Why does a guy get a lot of tackles? Because the defense is letting a lot of plays get off. So what does it say that Rivers only had 73? It says that he played on a good defense. Also, there is a lot of LB depth at USC, too.

BTW, Lofton and Mayo play MLB; they almost always get more tackles than the outside guys.

Keith Rivers is an excellent prospect, but we can get a good LB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[longtime lurker]

Then I started thinking about the benefits of others instead of DRC; especially Rivers, Ellis, and Dorsey- in that order.


Just some thoughts. What you think.

I think there's no way the Saints pass on Dorsey or Ellis @ 10. I expect, and hope, that they will try to trade up a few spots if one of the two start to slide down.

DRC may already be taken by the time the Saints draft....