~~~ Official 2023 New Orleans Pelican Off-season Discussion Thread ~~~ (79 Viewers)

[Chris]

That’s kind of my point…. When you are not playing iso ball all game…. And Z is on the court…. You can kick it out to CJ or BI…. Or Trey.. Or Dyson…. Or Kyra…. Or Richardson. They all will be open.

When you don’t have Z…. BI and CJ better get you 60 all on their own…. Or you have no shot. That’s where we are.

I have my issues with Zion too. He's yet to prove he can stay healthy for us long-term. The West is too talented for him to keep taking one step forward and two steps back.

 

[Chris]

BI is just too good tonight.

 

[Chris]

This was a good win. Hopefully it helps their confidence.

 

[Infoman]

Again. BI with 40. CJ with 24…. That pretty much has to happen every night for us to win. It’s not sustainable. That’s why getting Z back means so much. Dame had what 41? They are in the same boat.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

FTR, they had 23 assists on 46 FG, so it's not really iso ball! That being said, the Other Guys have to contribute offensively! Hayes picked up some slack tonight, but Trey's consistency is the missing link. If he would get double digits consistently they wouldn't be in this hole.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

So we're back to doing this crap where they only win games I don't watch or track. I see how it is, I'll catch you guys at the Championship parade

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Sounds like you’ve been “Billified”

 

[El Caliente]

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Two wins and we are out of the play in. 1 loss and we are out of the play in.

 

[Taker597]

Sounds like you’ve been “Billified”

@Bill

 

[Infoman]

FTR, they had 23 assists on 46 FG, so it's not really iso ball! That being said, the Other Guys have to contribute offensively! Hayes picked up some slack tonight, but Trey's consistency is the missing link. If he would get double digits consistently they wouldn't be in this hole.

Mis-leading... and why I am not a fan of stats... There was not a lot of ball movement. It was passing to get the ball into the hands of BI or CJ to go ISO.... over and over and over... and if you were the guy that got the pass to CJ or BI last night... you get an assist... because they were on.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Mis-leading... and why I am not a fan of stats... There was not a lot of ball movement. It was passing to get the ball into the hands of BI or CJ to go ISO.... over and over and over... and if you were the guy that got the pass to CJ or BI last night... you get an assist... because they were on.

The ball was always on the move, they just can't make a shot!!! Trey was 6-20 and 0fer in the 1st half. The only person that shot over 50% was BI. Hell, even AD & Joel were crediting them for their ball movement throughout the game.

 

[Infoman]

Pels took 89 shots... BI and CJ took 58 (65%) of those... we have a different definition of ISO Ball vs Ball Movement as it pertains to making others around you better and more efficient. I don't consider 3 passes and a couple of screens designed to get BI or CJ ISO'ed... "ball movement". My idea of ball movement is... The ball moves from hand to hand to break down the defense until it ends up in the hand of the player with the most high percentage shot, no matter who that is... The opposite worked last night because CJ and BI were on... when one isn't or both aren't... we get creamed because no one else is involved.

The real story of last nights game was the Pels only committed 6 turnovers... and the Blazers shot under 30% from 3.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

sheet...I just realized something, I ordered an Alvarado t-shirt last week and now he's out for weeks.

IT IS MY FAULT....FML, ALRIGHT SATAN GIGS UP I KNOW THIS IS THE BAD PLACE!!!

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Pels took 89 shots... BI and CJ took 58 (65%) of those... we have a different definition of ISO Ball vs Ball Movement as it pertains to making others around you better and more efficient. I don't consider 3 passes and a couple of screens designed to get BI or CJ ISO'ed... "ball movement". My idea of ball movement is... The ball moves from hand to hand to break down the defense until it ends up in the hand of the player with the most high percentage shot, no matter who that is... The opposite worked last night because CJ and BI were on... when one isn't or both aren't... we get creamed because no one else is involved.

The real story of last nights game was the Pels only committed 6 turnovers... and the Blazers shot under 30% from 3.

They are running designed sets to get them the ball because they, BI specifically, are the only ones scoring. When the ball moves to the "Other Guys ", they fail to produce. Your definition of iso ball is wrong.

ISO Ball is when a player takes the ball and dribbles on and on until he gets a clear out that results in a poor shot.

 

[Infoman]

ISO Ball is when a player takes the ball and dribbles on and on until he gets a clear out that results in a poor shot.

That's what was happening... They just happened to get one or two passes in prior to that... and they were hitting poor/contested shots... It's not sustainable... we've seen that. Semantics I guess.