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Yeah, WHY exactly are we supposed to believe that Andrade and Garza would still be teaming together? Also, we've seen this match with them and the SP like a dozen times already.

And yeah, nobody is buying Zelina as an option for Asuka, especially when she's only had like one match now in like a year.

I'm still not sure why they turned Black heel (instead of letting him be the face to feud with Rollins), but he and Owens are both great. They could do some good work together.

I love McIntyre, and Lee (in the ring, at least), but I've been pretty bummed that Lee only has 1 clean win since being called up, and kinda feels like the 3rd wheel in the Orton/McIntyre thing. Again, Rollins needs a good babyface (who isn't a Mysterio) to do a program with. Lee could do a great job with that if they want to pair Black and KO. Lee is great, but I don't love him in this (outside of that win against Orton).

I didn't like splitting up the Iconics. I can absolutely see why they annoyed some, but I thought they were great throw-back villains. I at least wanted them to keep Billie Kay as Peyton's manager while Peyton became a single's wrestler.

But I do think Peyton has something (that spinning brainbuster finisher is wonderful to look at) and am interested to see where she goes. I think she's awesome.
Agree with all of this. To me, it's like Raw has a lot of good pieces to turn out a great show, but they just don't put those pieces together properly.
 

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Agree with all of this. To me, it's like Raw has a lot of good pieces to turn out a great show, but they just don't put those pieces together properly.
Yep. There are so many talented people on that show. It is crazy to me that it is the worst wrestling show of the week (by a lot, IMO).

I think that completely abandoning tag teams and not knowing how to book babyfaces (who don't look completely naive/stupid) have been big issues with the show.

They also seem reluctant to give the spotlight to any singles male performers who they don't think can give the 10-15 minute opening (painfully scripted) promo at the start of Raw. That has caused them to shelve a lot of talented people for no good reason.

Like you said, they just don't put the pieces together.
 

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Finally.
While I’m having trouble picturing a shirtless Roman with cargo/tactical pants, I’ll take whatever we can get as long as he stops wearing a Kevlar vest (especially when he is supposed to be this giant badass).

The pants are definitely a secondary concern to the shirt/vest. Some new music and a new entrance would be awesome (and well deserved) too.
 

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I finally watched Raw and nothing makes sense and its completely sad, because of the great talent they have. First off, stop insulting fans. Do you really think with those crappy Bane masks we didn't know who that was in the ring for Retribution? So then you give them a contract knowing they are sabotaging your company? So then you a heel faction, Hurt Business, defend the E from Retribution.

For months you have Garza & Endrade challenge for the tag belts only to lose to the Profits and constantly tease a Garza/Endrade split up. So what do you do? You Take away Zelina, Asuka is gonna kill her, and now Garza & Endrade challenge for the titles again.

I feel bad for Seth for going through this crappy family feud. For a second I thought we were gonna have a Buddy/Seth feud or after Raw possibly have Seth & Buddy challenge for the tag belts. Nope let's keep going back to the Mysterio family, which I dont care about at all.

Sorry for the rant but I felt like I was taking crazy pills watching Raw. I could go on, but I wont. I'm not trying to hate because they have the talent, but I don't know. It's crazy when Roman came back, Smackdown's writing change and it has been entertaining.
 

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It's a shame they waited so long to turn Roman heel. Dude has been damn near incredible in his current role.
I’m rarely able to watch Smackdown, but holy crap! I just saw a clip of Roman Superman punching his cousin and then screaming at his unconscious body about how “my family needs me to have this title!” And to “just take your payday and the butt-whooping that comes with it”.

What an awesome moment and character build.
 

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I’m rarely able to watch Smackdown, but holy crap! I just saw a clip of Roman Superman punching his cousin and then screaming at his unconscious body about how “my family needs me to have this title!” And to “just take your payday and the butt-whooping that comes with it”.

What an awesome moment and character build.
You should watch the whole segment. Jey Uso had a good promo as well.
 

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