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He's not going to. He's already credited it to football. But the hotshotting was in response to AEW, hoping to draw eyes back to the product knowing it was going up against football. This isn't hard to figure out, honestly.

They didn't hot-shot the title to Big E in response to AEW. The original plan was for Big E to have won the title before last night as he was set to win it on the originally slated date of the draft at the end of August. They moved up the Orton vs. Lashley match to build a stronger card to compete against MNF...and they still saw a 17.3% drop in their 18-49 rating.

I mean, he won't do that. He's always talking about how MNF impacts Raw's ratings.
You kind of missed the sarcastic jab nature of my post there.
 
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They didn't hot-shot the title to Big E in response to AEW. The original plan was for Big E to have won the title before last night as he was set to win it on the originally slated date of the draft at the end of August. They moved up the Orton vs. Lashley match to build a stronger card to compete against MNF...and they still saw a 17.3% drop in their 18-49 rating.


You kind of missed the sarcastic jab nature of my post there.
Then why was last week's show setting up a tag match for Monday?
 

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Then why was last week's show setting up a tag match for Monday?
Am I not to believe all the stories of Vince maniacally changing his mind left and right and calling for the reworkings of scripts and storylines even as late as the night of the show?
 
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Am I not to believe all the stories of Vince maniacally changing his mind left and right and calling for the reworkings of scripts and storylines even as late as the night of the show?
Of course! And I'm saying the reason for that change was panic over the AEW number, especially since football is starting.
 

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Of course! And I'm saying the reason for that change was panic over the AEW number, especially since football is starting.
But MNF starting is what caused a 17.3% drop in their 18-49 demographic rating last night. The WWE knows this happens to Raw every football season. You think they booked more with AEW in mind than with a force that could knock off 17.3% of their most prized demographic in one week?
 

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Of course! And I'm saying the reason for that change was panic over the AEW number, especially since football is starting.
You do realize that neither one of AEW's shows air at the same time as a WWE show right?

You do realize that by both companies being on at different days and/or times that the target demographic can actually watch all 5 shows, giving them all the same boost right?

So if that is the case, why oh why does Vince care about the ratings demographics of a show on Wednesday night when his show appears on Monday? It's simple. He doesn't. He cares about that sporting event that airs the same time on Monday night as his Raw series does.
 
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You do realize that neither one of AEW's shows air at the same time as a WWE show right?

You do realize that by both companies being on at different days and/or times that the target demographic can actually watch all 5 shows, giving them all the same boost right?

So if that is the case, why oh why does Vince care about the ratings demographics of a show on Wednesday night when his show appears on Monday? It's simple. He doesn't. He cares about that sporting event that airs the same time on Monday night as his Raw series does.

I do. And it's the first time in two decades his wrestling program was outperformed by a rival wrestling program. Keep your head in the sand about it if it helps, but the hotshotting was in response to Dynamite's numbers.
 

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You do realize that neither one of AEW's shows air at the same time as a WWE show right?

You do realize that by both companies being on at different days and/or times that the target demographic can actually watch all 5 shows, giving them all the same boost right?

So if that is the case, why oh why does Vince care about the ratings demographics of a show on Wednesday night when his show appears on Monday? It's simple. He doesn't. He cares about that sporting event that airs the same time on Monday night as his Raw series does.
^ This all day long. MNF did more to bring down Raw's key 18-49 demographic rating in one night than AEW did with their string of recent signings - Punk, Cole, & Danielson.


I do. And it's the first time in two decades his wrestling program was outperformed by a rival wrestling program. Keep your head in the sand about it if it helps, but the hotshotting was in response to Dynamite's numbers.
Stop taking everything Meltzer says as gospel. He is close friends with Tony Khan (as well as with the Young Bucks) and so he is going to have a bias toward propping AEW up like he is here. Ringside News has reported with a source from the WWE creative team that AEW didn't factor into the WWE's decision to move up the title match and have Big E successfully cash in, and other sites have credited the opposition of MNF for the move.
 

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Not surprised MNF smashed Raw, it has for years but it’s going to get even worse once the season gets into full swing and the games stay competitive
 

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I do. And it's the first time in two decades his wrestling program was outperformed by a rival wrestling program. Keep your head in the sand about it if it helps, but the hotshotting was in response to Dynamite's numbers.
For someone who claims to watch no WWE programming, you sure are obsessed with their reasoning behind their creative decisions.
 

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Didn't watch NXT 2.0 last night , on DVR...worth the watch?

Happy for Big E.. a long time coming. I guess a short reunion of New Day till the draft.

Saw earlier today about a teaser for Hurt Business...never should have broken up.

Can't wait to see what MJF has to say tonight and whats next for Jericho.
 

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Didn't watch NXT 2.0 last night , on DVR...worth the watch?

Happy for Big E.. a long time coming. I guess a short reunion of New Day till the draft.

Saw earlier today about a teaser for Hurt Business...never should have broken up.

Can't wait to see what MJF has to say tonight and whats next for Jericho.
Some of NXT was super cringy. Rex Steiner now being called Bron Breakker and looking as generic as possible tops the list. They introduced some new blood who, of course were all big men. They wrote KOR out of the title match, and inserted, you guessed it, a big man. The highlight of the night may have been the InDex wedding. Pretty funny/entertaining.

Agree with all of your other comments, especially about The Hurt Business.
 

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