Ozark season 3 this Friday 3/27/2020 (1 Viewer)

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This show sticks with you for sure. I'm in the shower today thinking about Darlene meeting big Frank after handling Frank jr and find myself wondering if that's how it would play out in real life. Mob loves money but typically will pass on money to get even and protect family.
This wasn’t onscreen but my head canon has it that frank getting his *** handed to him by a bean counter was the last straw - he couldn’t protect frank he anymore
 

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Dude, it's a TV show, not real life.

We can take the commentary of mental illness people versus non-mental illness people's decision making to another thread. In this case, the writers of Ozark are attributing Ben's choices to his medical condition. End of story.

Move on! lol
Touché.
I’m not at all upset tho lol. Just my opinion.
The show is incredible.
 

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This show sticks with you for sure. I'm in the shower today thinking about Darlene meeting big Frank after handling Frank jr and find myself wondering if that's how it would play out in real life. Mob loves money but typically will pass on money to get even and protect family.
How often do you think of Darlene while showering? ?
 

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"Fricking birtch wolf"

I'm going to try my best to work that into my vocabulary in the future.

Today...is our beginning

WOW.
 

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How often do you think of Darlene while showering? ?
It was a one time deal haha....I just couldn't get past the mob letting her walk off that lot after what she did to the boss' son. My money is still on that not happening in real life.
 

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I thought this season was really good. If I may add some of my own takes I don't think we've touched yet.
1. Maya Miller. There hasn't been a lot said about her in this thread so far. I see her as a mirror image of Marty Byrde (it's Byrde with an "e") and that much will become even more clear next season. She's just as smart as he is. She knows all the tricks he's using and he know she knows. She also knows that he's unlikely to make the mistakes that would allow her to pursue charges. And he know she knows this. They are incredibly evenly matched. They both want to win for reasons that began as emotional responses to dealing with their dads. They have very similar temperaments. They think the same. As the saying goes, game recognizes game. Marty gave her nod when he acknowledged that he knew she was responsible for the red flag that sent everyone else into panic mode. It could have only been her. She's the only person that knew that only he would know what to do, proving his value. They know that they're better at what they do than anyone else around and that can make for a lonely life. We've seen how Marty had drifted away from his wife in season 1 onward. Now, he has someone that gets him, someone on the same level. I don't think it's a mistake that Maya is pregnant, pushed hard to be in the field out of DC, and doesn't wear a wedding ring. She's Marty...but on the other side.

2. Darlene Snell. I hate to say it, but the woman has grown on me, LOL. I feel like she had some of the best quotes of the season. "maybe she's having hallucinations...all those hormones and breast milk are playing tricks on her", "I can't have some women out there hocked up on breast milk slandering me". You best believe the KC mob is going to take her up on her offer if for no other reason because they share a common enemy (the Byrdes).

3. Wyatt Langmore. Dear God, man...seriously. But whatever, he's very smart and finally coming out of that fog of self-hate. The kid has the potential to be a force. With the love and encouragement of Ruth and Darlene, if he applies himself he could bring back "respectability" to the Langmore name.


The worst part of that show is now I have to wait a year to see new ones. It's a fantastic show with great writing. I think Marty's trip to Mexico is what convinced Navarro how valuable he is. He was always going to pick him over Helen after that. Them ending the war was huge also because Navarro was at the breaking point.
Yep. If Wendy Byrde got one thing right this season (and she did only get this one thing right) it was easily the perfect time to get it right. And it ends up being the most critically important idea of the season. Which is why I'm surprised that it didn't occur to Marty...or Maya. Everyone knows this was a retaliation hit. Why didn't someone think of this sooner?

I know all about the difference.
As it’s been written Marty and Wendy have their own personality issues lol. Glass houses and such.

And I will, for whatever reason I feel no sympathy for Ben. With how it’s been portrayed.
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He leaves and heads to the casino after being told how much of a bad idea that is. One thing is without doubt imo, he’s definitely written to be extremely ignorant and naive.
Calling Ben ignorant and naive because of his mental illness is like calling someone who's legally blind ignorant and naive for not comprehending the large print on a sign warning that the walk bridge is out.
 
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I thought this season was really good. If I may add some of my own takes I don't think we've touched yet.
1. Maya Miller. There hasn't been a lot said about her in this thread so far. I see her as a mirror image of Marty Byrde (it's Byrde with an "e") and that much will become even more clear next season. She's just as smart as he is. She knows all the tricks he's using and he know she knows. She also knows that he's unlikely to make the mistakes that would allow her to pursue charges. And he know she knows this. They are incredibly evenly matched. They both want to win for reasons that began as emotional responses to dealing with their dads. They have very similar temperaments. They think the same. As the saying goes, game recognizes game. Marty gave her nod when he acknowledged that he knew she was responsible for the red flag that sent everyone else into panic mode. It could have only been her. She's the only person that knew that only he would know what to do, proving his value. They know that they're better at what they do than anyone else around and that can make for a lonely life. We've seen how Marty had drifted away from his wife in season 1 onward. Now, he has someone that gets him, someone on the same level. I don't think it's a mistake that Maya is pregnant, pushed hard to be in the field out of DC, and doesn't wear a wedding ring. She's Marty...but on the other side.

2. Darlene Snell. I hate to say it, but the woman has grown on me, LOL. I feel like she had some of the best quotes of the season. "maybe she's having hallucinations...all those hormones and breast milk are playing tricks on her", "I can't have some women out there hocked up on breast milk slandering me". You best believe the KC mob is going to take her up on her offer if for no other reason because they share a common enemy (the Byrdes).

3. Wyatt Langmore. Dear God, man...seriously. But whatever, he's very smart and finally coming out of that fog of self-hate. The kid has the potential to be a force. With the love and encouragement of Ruth and Darlene, if he applies himself he could bring back "respectability" to the Langmore name.




Yep. If Wendy Byrde got one thing right this season (and she did only get this one thing right) it was easily the perfect time to get it right. And it ends up being the most critically important idea of the season. Which is why I'm surprised that it didn't occur to Marty...or Maya. Everyone knows this was a retaliation hit. Why didn't someone think of this sooner?



Calling Been ignorant and naive because of his mental illness is like calling someone who's legally blind ignorant and naive for not comprehending the large print on a sign warning that the walk bridge is out.
There is definitely a hannibal/will + raylan/boyd dynamic between Marty and fbi lady

darlene has NOT grown on me, but I like Wyatt a lot

i think s4 REALLY wants to have Ruth set against Marty until a last minute save from Darlene/kc- I hope they don’t go that way, but that’s where the signs point
 

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I thought this season was really good. If I may add some of my own takes I don't think we've touched yet.
1. Maya Miller. There hasn't been a lot said about her in this thread so far. I see her as a mirror image of Marty Byrde (it's Byrde with an "e") and that much will become even more clear next season. She's just as smart as he is. She knows all the tricks he's using and he know she knows. She also knows that he's unlikely to make the mistakes that would allow her to pursue charges. And he know she knows this. They are incredibly evenly matched. They both want to win for reasons that began as emotional responses to dealing with their dads. They have very similar temperaments. They think the same. As the saying goes, game recognizes game. Marty gave her nod when he acknowledged that he knew she was responsible for the red flag that sent everyone else into panic mode. It could have only been her. She's the only person that knew that only he would know what to do, proving his value. They know that they're better at what they do than anyone else around and that can make for a lonely life. We've seen how Marty had drifted away from his wife in season 1 onward. Now, he has someone that gets him, someone on the same level. I don't think it's a mistake that Maya is pregnant, pushed hard to be in the field out of DC, and doesn't wear a wedding ring. She's Marty...but on the other side.

2. Darlene Snell. I hate to say it, but the woman has grown on me, LOL. I feel like she had some of the best quotes of the season. "maybe she's having hallucinations...all those hormones and breast milk are playing tricks on her", "I can't have some women out there hocked up on breast milk slandering me". You best believe the KC mob is going to take her up on her offer if for no other reason because they share a common enemy (the Byrdes).

3. Wyatt Langmore. Dear God, man...seriously. But whatever, he's very smart and finally coming out of that fog of self-hate. The kid has the potential to be a force. With the love and encouragement of Ruth and Darlene, if he applies himself he could bring back "respectability" to the Langmore name.




Yep. If Wendy Byrde got one thing right this season (and she did only get this one thing right) it was easily the perfect time to get it right. And it ends up being the most critically important idea of the season. Which is why I'm surprised that it didn't occur to Marty...or Maya. Everyone knows this was a retaliation hit. Why didn't someone think of this sooner?



Calling Ben ignorant and naive because of his mental illness is like calling someone who's legally blind ignorant and naive for not comprehending the large print on a sign warning that the walk bridge is out.
I like your insight.....good stuff. Darlene is bat crap crazy while also being smart...however that works. I think her being a loose canon gets her killed at some point.
I see Ruth as being a main player at some point too....her street smarts gets her by but she knows Marty is where the brains and future is. She'll make amends with Marty at some point and probably betray Darlene and that's what gets Darlene killed.

At least I hope it goes something like that....the more Ruth the better. I have a huge crush on her haha
 

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It can really only end 2 ways. Marty/Wendy getting killed or Navarro getting killed.
I really hope they don't drag this story out much more than 1 more season, would hate to see it get watered down.
I'm sure I missed it from the first season, But I can't remember what the Snells have on the Sheriff.
 

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It can really only end 2 ways. Marty/Wendy getting killed or Navarro getting killed.
I really hope they don't drag this story out much more than 1 more season, would hate to see it get watered down.
I'm sure I missed it from the first season, But I can't remember what the Snells have on the Sheriff.
Agreed, but what's different from a show like Breaking Bad, is that Ozark's next generation could keep this show going even longer once the OGs get killed off. I'm talking about Jonah, Charlotte, and Wyatt becoming major players next to Ruth as she continues to develop. Hell, even Three may step up.
 

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Jonah has already shown he can navigate the dark web, set up offshore accounts, and establish his own shell companies. He sent a very strong message to Helen, holding her at gunpoint, and still had the discipline and foresight to not actually shoot her.

One interesting tidbit from this season was Wendy comparing Jonah to Ben. Wonder if this foreshadows him eventually manifesting the same mental illness.
 
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Jonah has already shown he can navigate the dark web, set up offshore accounts, and establish his own shell companies. He sent a very strong message to Helen, holding her at gunpoint, and still had the discipline and foresight to not actually shoot her.

One interesting tidbit from this season was Wendy comparing Jonah to Ben. Wonder if this foreshadows him eventually manifesting the same mental illness.
It definitely feels like they are building that character up for a tragic end. We have seen potential hardened criminal traits from him, as well as potential serial killer traits in him.
 

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