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It happened on the July 4th.. Independent day they did it. And all the talk we had from people Like First Time Poster as to why he did not view the 4th with the Same enthusiasm as others did. And it did Happen right after the Betsy Ross flag deal...So it just seemed to reason. I was gonna make a comment that this was more of a Halloween stunt.
Doesn't it seem more likely that they did it on July 4th because it's a holiday in the summer and they could organize a large group easier?
I struggled with how to start the thread, I knew it was gonna cause a stir.. So I deleted the 4th of July Connections off, posted the video as is to speak for itself and kind of let the chips fall and the discussion go from there.
What gets me is why the thread wasn't started by someone else. I waited a few days to see if someone would. Cause I knew If I did, the reaction that I would get. And I wasn't wrong.
Because most of us don't think the video speaks for itself. We see a bunch of people behaving badly - which is not much of a discussion (anyone here support this kind of behavior? No? OK, what's to discuss?)
It definitely appears you're being drawn into the culture wars and are seeing battles where some of us don't see any. So, if you want to start a discussion with something you see and feel is important, don't be oblique about it. Just state it as clearly and concisely as possible, and be prepared for people to not see it the same way and will disagree with you publicly about it.
I'm not sure if you still want to have the larger discussion, especially since there seems to be no evidence that this event is connected to Kapernick/patriotism/whatever.... but if you do, do you think First Time Poster is wrong for not feeling enthusiastic about the 4th of July? Do you see how black Americans might be less thrilled with the 4th of July since it is not the anniversary of their own declaration of freedom? Do you see how the 4th of July can be viewed as only a partial victory of a specific idea (that all men are created equal)? And that a large percentage of Americans were excluded from that ideal for another 90 years (or really almost 200 years if you count Jim Crow)?
If you do see their point, then do you think they should not express that disappointment?
If you don't see their point, would care to discuss that?