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“At least American racism is in your face. You know where you stand with your hood-wearing KKK, your skinheads, your police officers,” she says. “Our police officers in England are just as racist. The difference is our police officers aren’t allowed to carry guns, hence Black people don’t die in the same numbers.”


Hmmm... institutional racism backed policing without guns seems like a safer proposition to me. I also think just calling police officers racist sort of dilutes the problem. There's police officers who aren't racist participating in a system that propagates racism.
 

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Hmmm... institutional racism backed policing without guns seems like a safer proposition to me. I also think just calling police officers racist sort of dilutes the problem. There's police officers who aren't racist participating in a system that propagates racism.
Yes, I definitely participated in the system. The system then turned around and turned on me when I called it out. The racism against me was so blatant I thought there is no way this is up for debate. Boy was I wrong.
 

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“At least American racism is in your face. You know where you stand with your hood-wearing KKK, your skinheads, your police officers,” she says. “Our police officers in England are just as racist. The difference is our police officers aren’t allowed to carry guns, hence Black people don’t die in the same numbers.”

my wife always says 'give me the n-word racism anyday'
it's the racists who don't think/know they are racist who she finds most exhausting and dangerous
 

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didn't use my gun - checkmate snowflakes


This is the thing the spokespeople, media and news aren't getting across. It's the root of the problem with policing. It's what we saw with Chauvin, we see it here, we see it in almost all of these 'terrible cop' videos and stories.

It's the attitude these pigs display. Chauvin was literally killing a man with his hands in his pockets, sunglasses pushed up on his head like a Saturday stroll. This-here pig never acts concerned, surprised or even caring at all. He's so freaking callous about it. The driver could be dead, the car might catch on fire, but it ain't no thing to Officer Friendly there.

Remember that scene in Silence of the Lambs where they talk about how Lecter ate this nurse's tongue and his heart rate never went above 65? We have way, way too many cops in this country who're exactly like that.
 

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This is the thing the spokespeople, media and news aren't getting across. It's the root of the problem with policing. It's what we saw with Chauvin, we see it here, we see it in almost all of these 'terrible cop' videos and stories.

It's the attitude these pigs display. Chauvin was literally killing a man with his hands in his pockets, sunglasses pushed up on his head like a Saturday stroll. This-here pig never acts concerned, surprised or even caring at all. He's so freaking callous about it. The driver could be dead, the car might catch on fire, but it ain't no thing to Officer Friendly there.

Remember that scene in Silence of the Lambs where they talk about how Lecter ate this nurse's tongue and his heart rate never went above 65? We have way, way too many cops in this country who're exactly like that.

I think what these incidents all have in common is the attitude that "people better do as I say" regardless if the means justifies the "crime". Instead of enforcing the law or levying fines, instead they are enforcing their own will, and doing so regardless of the actual costs in life, property, or liberty. This is not the intention of "peace keepers", that's the intention of fascists.

Check out the YouTube channel Audit the Audit for tons of good and bad interactions with cops. Now I certainly don't promote provoking cops just for the hell of it, but I've watched a few videos here and there and find it interesting how little of the law some cops actually know.
 

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didn't use my gun - checkmate snowflakes


Pregnant woman. Said she was afraid to pull over on the highway because there was no shoulder - so going to the next exit (slowly and with hazards on).

Grotesque.
 

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Pregnant woman. Said she was afraid to pull over on the highway because there was no shoulder - so going to the next exit (slowly and with hazards on).

Grotesque.
I was actually pulled over one week night coming back from Houston (to Austin) around 1am. I had been there helping the Houston guide dog puppy raising club (brand new club) receive their pups at the airport cargo & do some training.

Anyway, I was on this stretch of freeway that apparently the speed limit dropped from 70 to 60 and I had never noticed it.

Anyway, cop lights me up on the freeway. I keep going to the next exit & pull over by the cluster of hotels at the exit. I didn't even put on my hazards. I merely put on my blinker to indicate I'd be exiting the freeway.

Fortunately the cop I was dealing with recognized that was what I was doing and didn't try anything crazy. I mean it should be obvious as I was not trying to speed away and still using signals.

He did ask if I was drunk and I said no. He asked where I was coming from & I explained it. I had my GDB shirt on and a dog with me so he believed me but today, knowing what I know, I would 100% tell him where I was going/coming from is none of his business and to either ticket me or give me my warning and let me on my way.
 
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I would 100% tell him where I was going/coming from is none of his business and to either ticket me or give me my warning and let me on my way.
I'm hoping this is internet bravado and you'd really just say in a matter of fact style that on the advice of my lawyer I'm not giving you any more information than the law requires. I'd also recommend in car camera which can document your driving and officer interactions.

I would not recommend getting confrontational at all because they might decide you need to be made into an example to assert their authority. Invoking lawyer advice tells him that you have already considered this and have the means for a lawyer. Chances are they'll act appropriately, but at that point you'll give them more to consider.
 

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I was actually pulled over one week night coming back from Houston (to Austin) around 1am. I had been there helping the Houston guide dog puppy raising club (brand new club) receive their pups at the airport cargo & do some training.

Anyway, I was on this stretch of freeway that apparently the speed limit dropped from 70 to 60 and I had never noticed it.

Anyway, cop lights me up on the freeway. I keep going to the next exit & pull over by the cluster of hotels at the exit. I didn't even put on my hazards. I merely put on my blinker to indicate I'd be exiting the freeway.

Fortunately the cop I was dealing with recognized that was what I was doing and didn't try anything crazy. I mean it should be obvious as I was not trying to speed away and still using signals.

He did ask if I was drunk and I said no. He asked where I was coming from & I explained it. I had my GDB shirt on and a dog with me so he believed me but today, knowing what I know, I would 100% tell him where I was going/coming from is none of his business and to either ticket me or give me my warning and let me on my way.

They literally instruct people do find a safe place to pull over. The highway in the video has virtually no shoulder and high concrete barriers - clearly not safe to pull over.
 

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I'm hoping this is internet bravado and you'd really just say in a matter of fact style that on the advice of my lawyer I'm not giving you any more information than the law requires. I'd also recommend in car camera which can document your driving and officer interactions.

I would not recommend getting confrontational at all because they might decide you need to be made into an example to assert their authority. Invoking lawyer advice tells him that you have already considered this and have the means for a lawyer. Chances are they'll act appropriately, but at that point you'll give them more to consider.
I used to answer their questions but now, knowing what I know, they do not need to know where I am going or coming from in order to write me a speeding ticket. It truly doesn't matter where I'm going. Give me the ticket or be on your way.

I've been pulled over for speeding before without the cop asking where I am coming from/going. It's not relevant to issue me a ticket and as they say - anything you say can be used against you in court. So if I said "hey I'm coming back from a gay pride festival" then tried to fight the ticket in court where the judge was anti-gay and read that commentary on the officer's notes, well guess who stands no chance of winning that fight.

Or if I said "I'm coming from the hair salon" and the cop's ex-wife, who he had a bitter divorce from & despises was a hair dresser, he could be tempted to be a jerk to me because of some unrelated grudge - as we have seen them do. The less they know, the better off we are.

Also, I have been pulled over for speeding where the officer was going full on lecture. I told him to just issue the ticket and spare me the lecture. He didn't like it but he shut up and just wrote out the ticket and walked off.
 

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Good ol Louisiana State Troopers...

Systemic? Nah


The same Louisiana State Police unit whose troopers stunned, punched and dragged Ronald Greene on video during a deadly 2019 arrest is now under internal investigation by a secret panel over whether its officers are systematically targeting Black motorists for abuse.

The panel, whose existence was confirmed to The Associated Press by four people familiar with it, was set up in response to Greene’s death as well as three other violent stops of Black men: one who was punched, stunned and hoisted to his feet by his hair braids in a body-camera video obtained by the AP, another who was beaten after he was handcuffed, and yet another who was slammed 18 times with a flashlight.

The review is focused on Louisiana State Police Troop F, a 66-officer unit that patrols a sprawling territory in the northeastern part of the state and has become notorious in recent years for alleged acts of brutality that have resulted in felony charges against some of its troopers.

“You’d be naïve to think it’s limited to two or three instances. That’s why you’re seeing this audit, which is a substantial undertaking by any agency,” said Rafael Goyeneche, a former prosecutor who is president of the Metropolitan Crime Commission, a New Orleans-based watchdog group. “They’ve got to identify these people and remove them from the organization.”
 

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I used to answer their questions but now, knowing what I know, they do not need to know where I am going or coming from in order to write me a speeding ticket. It truly doesn't matter where I'm going. Give me the ticket or be on your way.

I've been pulled over for speeding before without the cop asking where I am coming from/going. It's not relevant to issue me a ticket and as they say - anything you say can be used against you in court. So if I said "hey I'm coming back from a gay pride festival" then tried to fight the ticket in court where the judge was anti-gay and read that commentary on the officer's notes, well guess who stands no chance of winning that fight.

Or if I said "I'm coming from the hair salon" and the cop's ex-wife, who he had a bitter divorce from & despises was a hair dresser, he could be tempted to be a jerk to me because of some unrelated grudge - as we have seen them do. The less they know, the better off we are.

Also, I have been pulled over for speeding where the officer was going full on lecture. I told him to just issue the ticket and spare me the lecture. He didn't like it but he shut up and just wrote out the ticket and walked off.
um...how many times have you been pulled over?
 

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