Putting some numbers on these injuries (1 Viewer)

[DCTransplant]

We all know that the injuries have been numerous this year. But I got to wondering how bad.... as in when you look at our salary cap, what percentage of that has been off the field with injuries this year.... I feel like that's a good measure, because a guy's cap number to some degree represents a weighting that reflects the player's level of importance to the team's success.

So I took the Top 30 players against our salary cap (everyone making more than $850K) minus the few guys that are only special teamers, and added in a few more lower number guys that were expected to be key contributors on offense or defense at the beginning of the season (I didn't include any acquisitions during the season like Roby or Ingram)... Then I divided them into 2 groups: 19 Offense (included Lutz) and 18 Defense... the numbers are pretty alarming.

First of all, of the 19 offensive players on that list, only 4 have played every game, and 2 of them are backup linemen.... they are Marquez Callaway, Cesar Ruiz, James Hurst, and Calvin Throckmorton. That in itself is devastating.

I took everyone's cap number, divided it by 17 to create a per game cap number for everyone on the list. Then figured out the total cost of the guys we were missing every week (including Onyamata's suspension)..... If you compute that over the 12 games we've played to date, we've been missing 47% of our total offensive cap spending due to injuries on the offensive side.

And while we've had some pretty tough injuries on the defensive side, especially on the D Line, just for comparison, we've had just under 15% of our defensive cap spending on the bench.

When you look at the Dallas game, the number climbs to over 71% on the offensive side....

How many teams in the NFL could compete with 30% of their total cap on 1 side of the ball??

I thought it was interesting enough to spend an hour figuring it out, and I so I decided to share...

Hoping that with the long rest, and hopefully a get well game against the Jets next, we get some guys back, and can finish strong... WhoDat

 

[mr.t]

We all know that the injuries have been numerous this year. But I got to wondering how bad.... as in when you look at our salary cap, what percentage of that has been off the field with injuries this year.... I feel like that's a good measure, because a guy's cap number to some degree represents a weighting that reflects the player's level of importance to the team's success.

So I took the Top 30 players against our salary cap (everyone making more than $850K) minus the few guys that are only special teamers, and added in a few more lower number guys that were expected to be key contributors on offense or defense at the beginning of the season (I didn't include any acquisitions during the season like Roby or Ingram)... Then I divided them into 2 groups: 19 Offense (included Lutz) and 18 Defense... the numbers are pretty alarming.

First of all, of the 19 offensive players on that list, only 4 have played every game, and 2 of them are backup linemen.... they are Marquez Callaway, Cesar Ruiz, James Hurst, and Calvin Throckmorton. That in itself is devastating.

I took everyone's cap number, divided it by 17 to create a per game cap number for everyone on the list. Then figured out the total cost of the guys we were missing every week (including Onyamata's suspension)..... If you compute that over the 12 games we've played to date, we've been missing 47% of our total offensive cap spending due to injuries on the offensive side.

And while we've had some pretty tough injuries on the defensive side, especially on the D Line, just for comparison, we've had just under 15% of our defensive cap spending on the bench.

When you look at the Dallas game, the number climbs to over 71% on the offensive side....

How many teams in the NFL could compete with 30% of their total cap on 1 side of the ball??

I thought it was interesting enough to spend an hour figuring it out, and I so I decided to share...

Hoping that with the long rest, and hopefully a get well game against the Jets next, we get some guys back, and can finish strong... WhoDat

Wow. Thanks for the info. That is amazing.

 

[bclemms]

Thanks for your effort putting all of that together.

If you feel like looking up the number of missed starts. Starting players times number of games missed. This includes the start, then the starters backup when they also become the starter. It'll be shocking.

 

[Nutria]

Excellent post, thank you.

 

[BarBar]

Nice work. Anyone who says the injuries aren't the problem needs to read this. Yes. There is at least 1 poster here who believes that.

 

[sammymvpknight]

The Saints have a handful of very injury prone players, and it’s difficult to use that as an excuse in those situations. Also, the Saints training staff has to be a joke, right? That would also fall under the Saints responsibility as well.

 

[BroKV]

Greenbrier

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Great work
You’re going to have a ton of members asking you to tweak your numbers…like me
I wonder if there is a way to have an adjusted ‘impact player’ designation

 

[UFCSaint]

Thanks for putting that together, can't say that it is too shocking. I am still waiting on someone to put together a football play diagram (x's and o's) for both offense and defense showing each player that has actually played each position this year.

• Listed by string rank
• Name in red if on IR
• Number of games played/number of games missed due to injury
• I only listed Hill's numbers below as they would pertain to his QB position

Something kinda like:

 

[evilsaint]

But, but, like, something something, leadership!

 

[mr.t]

The Saints have a handful of very injury prone players, and it’s difficult to use that as an excuse in those situations. Also, the Saints training staff has to be a joke, right? That would also fall under the Saints responsibility as well.

That doesn't take away rom the post though.

 

[sammymvpknight]

That doesn't take away rom the post though.

But it does. When you invest in injury prone players abd have a mediocre training staff you will perpetually have injury issues. So you can’t really use that as an excuse.

 

[Zack Lee]

great effort OP!. I was thinking about this the other day and maybe it does exist, but I am surprised that PFF or someone doesn't have a formula that factors in how much a player contributes and total injuries on a team. I suspect there is a pretty strong correlation between the most relative healthy teams and championship teams. SB winners probably have to be within the top 5 most healthy teams for any particular year. I sure know we had a relatively healthy year in 09

 

[Domeination]

Availability is a premium NFL talent. Rickey Jackson, the Saints' greatest LB, missed almost no games in his career--just 2 in 13 seasons as a Saint. And the only reason he missed those two was he broke his jaw in a car accident. He got fitted with a special reinforced face mask and returned in two weeks with his jaw not fully healed. I know the Saints have had a lot of bad luck this season with injuries, but one thing Payton tends to do is roll the dice in the draft on college players with injury histories that cause them to drop down the board. They have all the measurables, but having the measurables doesn't matter when you can't stay on the field. The team needs to put availability higher in its criteria for selecting players, and needs to review all of its training and medical protocols to make sure everything is being done to help players be available on game day.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Great research, thanks for posting

I’m wondering how that 70% compares to other teams, this year and others

I can’t imagine very many other teams playing a game at 30% on either side of the ball