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An Illegal Forward Pass Penalty is called when a player throws the ball forward once they are past the line of scrimmage. This can be the quarterback or any other player. This penalty can also be called if two forward passes are thrown on one play, even though they are both behind the line of scrimmage.


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There is a 5 yard penalty from the spot of the foul and the offense loses a down in both the NFL and College Football.
Instead of an 8 yard gain, the Bucs should have been penalized 5 yards from Where Brady threw the second pass which was about 7 yards behind the line. That was 20 yards of field position against the Rams. Between not knowing that rule and the early whistle on the Brady fumble pass this was a fiasco for this crew. And it has nothing to do with race!
 

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An Illegal Forward Pass Penalty is called when a player throws the ball forward once they are past the line of scrimmage. This can be the quarterback or any other player. This penalty can also be called if two forward passes are thrown on one play, even though they are both behind the line of scrimmage.


Number of Yards
There is a 5 yard penalty from the spot of the foul and the offense loses a down in both the NFL and College Football.
Instead of an 8 yard gain, the Bucs should have been penalized 5 yards from Where Brady threw the second pass which was about 7 yards behind the line. That was 20 yards of field position against the Rams. Between not knowing that rule and the early whistle on the Brady fumble pass this was a fiasco for this crew. And it has nothing to do with race!
I believe that the Rams refused the penalty in order to force 4th down. :shrug:
 

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An Illegal Forward Pass Penalty is called when a player throws the ball forward once they are past the line of scrimmage. This can be the quarterback or any other player. This penalty can also be called if two forward passes are thrown on one play, even though they are both behind the line of scrimmage.


Number of Yards
There is a 5 yard penalty from the spot of the foul and the offense loses a down in both the NFL and College Football.
Instead of an 8 yard gain, the Bucs should have been penalized 5 yards from Where Brady threw the second pass which was about 7 yards behind the line. That was 20 yards of field position against the Rams. Between not knowing that rule and the early whistle on the Brady fumble pass this was a fiasco for this crew. And it has nothing to do with race!
Do you happen to remember when this happened? I have it recorded and I want to replay it.
 

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It’s loss of down penalty. They could accept the penalty and still had fourth down for Bucs.
I’d have to find the rule, but if the OP is correct, then the penalty comes with a loss of down.
But they didn't. They refused the penalty. Or at least that is what the refs announced.
 

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It’s only a loss of down if the illegal forward pass is thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage.


Item 1: Illegal Passes. Any other forward pass by either team is illegal and is a foul by the passing team, including:
(a) A forward pass thrown when the passer is beyond the line of scrimmage.
Note: It is a forward pass from beyond the line of scrimmage if the passer’s entire body and the ball are beyond the line of scrimmage when the ball is released, whether the passer is airborne or touching the ground. The penalty for a forward pass thrown from beyond the line is enforced from the spot where the ball is released.
Item 2:
(b) (c) (d)
A second forward pass thrown from behind the line of scrimmage.
A forward pass thrown after the ball has crossed the line of scrimmage and has returned behind it.
A forward pass thrown after there has been a change of possession.
Intercepted Illegal Pass. If an illegal pass is caught or intercepted, the ball may be advanced and the penalty declined.
Penalties:
(a) For a forward pass from beyond the line: Loss of down and five yards from the spot of the pass. See 14-8-2. See S.N. 3 below.
(b) For a second forward pass from behind the line, or for a forward pass that was thrown after the ball returned behind the line: Loss of five yards.
(c) For a forward pass that is thrown by Team B, or for a forward pass that is thrown by Team A after a change of possession: Loss of five yards from the spot of the pass.
 
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But they didn't. They refused the penalty. Or at least that is what the refs announced.
They refused it because refs didn’t know the rule and give them the option to take the penalty with loss of down.
 

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The officials are supposed to know better, the reason why the Rams declined is because the officials didn't cite the penalty correctly to them.
Are they required to? Is it the officiating crew’s responsibility to tell an NFL franchise what the yardage and down result of the penalty enforcement is? I legitimately don’t know the answer to that.
 

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