Ross Jackson’s biggest takeaways from Loomis, Moore and Ireland at the combine (110 Viewers)

[Boy_of_wonder75]

So now we are already turning against Kellen Moore before he’s coached a single game??? You guys are something else. SMH

Waah! He's not doing what we want! Waah!

 

[Infoman]

Oh and to be clear…. I love what we’ve done by completely upsetting the apple cart from a coaching standpoint. That was always obvious step 1…

But now is also the time to rip the bandaid off from a player personnel perspective… To build a long term winner. The longer we wait the longer it will be before we are truly competitive…. And we are also subsequently wasting a year of a good young coach’s career in the process.

It’s time to dump old and bad contracts. Fill a couple holes in the lines with cheap FAs…. And Draft young and exciting player makers that make this team worth watching while we develop a young QB or 3 over the next 2 seasons.

This defense is on the way down, and will take longer to fix. So let’s just be drunk Sunday offense fun while we start the rebuild. That’s my vote.

Not saying any of this is easy…. But it needs to be done now.

 

[MikeyF]

“We’re looking for different (prototypes for) ends and different nose tackles and different linebackers, so that’s where they change,” said Ireland.

This probably says a lot about our upcoming draft & some of our older D players...

 

[BoNcHiE]

Keeping Taysom at his current number is insane.

He’s paid like a top 5 RB to get 5-10 touches a game and he’s coming off a major injury where he won’t be available until November. We can cut him and save $10 million this year.

That’s a far worse decision than Carr.

 

[Fiyo]

I think a lot of people assume that if we get rid of Carr that we are on the path to finding a franchise QB, but it’s not that easy at all. You can stay in QB hell a really long time. You can invest top 5 pick in a QB and find out he’s a bust 2 years later. That’s 3 years down the drain, and probably enough to get a coach fired. Now you’re “rebuilding” again.

It’s fun to think about rebuilding, but it’s not a bad thing to have a bridge QB to give you some stability until you find a replacement.

Exactly. How do we know what restructuring means without meaning any terms. What if removing then no-trade (unless agreed upon) clause is part of the restructure? What if it becomes a more incentive-based contract that could open the door for a true Carr-Rattler preseason showdown? What does restructuring really mean (until it happens and we know)? If Moore and Carr and both good with the beginnings of a plan (and it sounds like they might be), then I am, too. Let’s wait and see what happens before making judgements on complete unknowns at this point.

 

[St. Geezy]

Keeping Taysom at his current number is insane.

He’s paid like a top 5 RB to get 5-10 touches a game and he’s coming off a major injury where he won’t be available until November. We can cut him and save $10 million this year.

That’s a far worse decision than Carr.

That’s a guy I think may be willing to play ball with the team on paycut talks that make sense for both sides. He doesn’t seem like the type that would hold our feet to the fire.

We’ve more than done right by him and his career earnings-wise, and hopefully that’s bought us some goodwill.

 

[meily]

Contrary to popular SR belief, NFL teams outside of maybe the top 3 or 4 teams aren't out here with a "14-3 and HFA or bust" mindset.

It's odd to me that a fan would turn his nose up at the prospects of a 10-win season being a goal for a first-year HC, especially since 10 wins in our division likely equates to a home playoff game.

Anything can happen in this league.

I agree, How are you mad because your team is trying to compete?

 

[Fiyo]

You never leave QB hell until you start looking for a QB. You can't get a top tier QB in the draft without investing a high pick which we won't get finishing in the middle of the pack. Of course you can then trade up, but then that makes the fact that your team has drafted the least amount of players in the league over the last 5 years even worse. You can't get one in free agency unless you give out stupid contracts like the one they gave Carr. This team is setup to fail before they even try to look for a new QB.

Unlike last year, there is no given top-tier QB in this draft. Don’t be surprised if the best QB to come from this draft (if there is one) ends up being drafted in the third round or later. I just don’t see any sure-thing QB this draft and we don’t have any draft capital to waste at this point.

 

[Deuuuuce]

Unlike last year, there is no given top-tier QB in this draft. Don’t be surprised if the best QB to come from this draft (if there is one) ends up being drafted in the third round or later. I just don’t see any sure-thing QB this draft and we don’t have any draft capital to waste at this point.

For sure there is no sure thing at QB in this draft or in any draft for that matter. Keeping Carr around another season or two allows us to draft BPA instead of reaching for a QB we may not even be that high on but feel compelled to take just because we’re desperate.

 

[stadanko]

Contrary to popular SR belief, NFL teams outside of maybe the top 3 or 4 teams aren't out here with a "14-3 and HFA or bust" mindset.

It's odd to me that a fan would turn his nose up at the prospects of a 10 win season being a goal for a first year HC, especially since 10 wins in our division likely equates to a home playoff game.

Anything can happen in this league.

We're turning our nose up at our front office continuously choosing to hold the whole thing together with spit and Loomis smacked gum. And the absolute pinnacle we can apparently aspire to is winning a crappy division and then getting bounced from the wild card round by a good team.

Our roster belongs in the nursing home and we're paying the oldest ones the most money. It's an awful strategy. We need to manage the cap better, draft better, stockpile more picks and when you have a good YOUNG winning team, THEN you restructure deals and trade picks to get those final pieces. You don't do it to maybe beat Tampa and be someone's doormat to the divisional round.

But it's the drum that gets beat around here. "We're going back to Haslett era Saints and don't you dare complain about it! You're lucky to get 10 wins!"

 

[St.Fury]

Big Yikes. They really clawing for a 10 win season at best.

I wouldn’t be mad at 10 wins…

 

[silverbullet]

Saints will keep Taysom, look to add edge rushers and NT, Penning staying at RT and Saints will be a lot more active in free agency. Look for Carr to restructure to make cap room for free agency.

JACKSON: Biggest takeaways from Saints NFL Combine availability

By Ross Jackson INDIANAPOLIS – While the New Orleans Saints do not take the podiums at the NFL Scouting Combine, team executives still meet with local media. This year, general manager Mickey Loomis, college scouting director Jeff Ireland, and new head coach Kellen Moore spoke with reporters...

www.louisianasports.net

Loomis can’t get out of his own way. Maybe he’s worried he’ll be fired before they are actually decent again by building the right way.

I turn my nose up at 10 wins. Utterly meaningless if 10 is your ceiling. Now if you get to 10 but have a legit chance to make a run that’s different.

This team has very little talent and most importantly doesn’t have a qb.

I believe they have a good coach but now you need to find the QB. Blowing more years and cap to kick out and win 8 games just puts you another year away from a possible real run.

 

[silverbullet]

We're turning our nose up at our front office continuously choosing to hold the whole thing together with spit and Loomis smacked gum. And the absolute pinnacle we can apparently aspire to is winning a crappy division and then getting bounced from the wild card round by a good team.

Our roster belongs in the nursing home and we're paying the oldest ones the most money. It's an awful strategy. We need to manage the cap better, draft better, stockpile more picks and when you have a good YOUNG winning team, THEN you restructure deals and trade picks to get those final pieces. You don't do it to maybe beat Tampa and be someone's doormat to the divisional round.

But it's the drum that gets beat around here. "We're going back to Haslett era Saints and don't you dare complain about it! You're lucky to get 10 wins!"

Facts.

Winning the worst division in football to get skull dragged in the wildcard round do is no great feat.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

We're turning our nose up at our front office continuously choosing to hold the whole thing together with spit and Loomis smacked gum. And the absolute pinnacle we can apparently aspire to is winning a crappy division and then getting bounced from the wild card round by a good team.

Our roster belongs in the nursing home and we're paying the oldest ones the most money. It's an awful strategy. We need to manage the cap better, draft better, stockpile more picks and when you have a good YOUNG winning team, THEN you restructure deals and trade picks to get those final pieces. You don't do it to maybe beat Tampa and be someone's doormat to the divisional round.

But it's the drum that gets beat around here. "We're going back to Haslett era Saints and don't you dare complain about it! You're lucky to get 10 wins!"

I’d be fine getting bounced from the wildcard round with a young ascending team, but we are the opposite.

 

[StudioSaint]

So now we are already turning against Kellen Moore before he’s coached a single game??? You guys are something else. SMH

I fully expected there were going to be fans that would suddenly stop trusting Moore as soon as he made a decision they didn't like. Too many fans think they know as much as the people who know a lot more than they do and have the actual hands on experience that they don't. Respect for experience and expertise are foreign concepts to them. Of course, I'm not talking about a single person that this isn't true for.