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<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" name="State"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" name="City"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" name="stockticker"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceName"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceType"></o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" name="place"></o:smarttagtype><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026"/> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1"/> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> This week it&#8217;s the Saints vs. New York Jets and a battle of unbeaten teams. Here&#8217;s a look back at some Jets and Saints history

<o></o>The New York Jets were originally the Titans (1960-62). A charter member of the old American Football League (<st1:stockticker>AFL</st1:stockticker>), the name changed to Jets prior to 1963. The team played at the Polo Grounds (1960-63), before moving into Shea Stadium in 1964. Shea Stadium was the home of the Jets through 1983. From 1984 to present, the team has played in the Meadowlands at Giants Stadium.<o></o>

Prior to the 1965 season, Jets owner Sonny Werblein signed 2 high-profile QBs. Joe Namath, from the University of Alabama, was one. Who was the other? 1964 Heisman Trophy winner John Huarte, from Notre Dame, also signed with the Jets. To say the least, he didn&#8217;t fare as well as Namath. After one season on the Jets taxi squad, he played sparingly for the Patriots, Eagles, Chiefs, and Bears. He later was QB of the <st1:city><st1>Memphis</st1> Southmen</st1:city> franchise in the WFL, where he had a backfield of Csonka and Kiick (signed away from <st1:city><st1>the Dolphins</st1></st1:city><st1:city></st1:city>) and WR Paul Warfield (also signed from the Dolphins).

Joe Namath never played in a regular season game in <st1:city><st1>New Orleans. </st1></st1:city> He appeared twice (1970, 1973) in preseason games played at Tulane Stadium, with the Jets winning both. The 1973 game was Coach John North&#8217;s debut after replacing J.D. Roberts, who was fired after four preseason games. Namath did face the Saints in one regular season game, played in <st1:state><st1>New York's</st1></st1:state> Shea Stadium in late 1972. The Jets did not score a touchdown, but still managed to win, 18-17, on six Bobby Howfield field goals.

With which team did Namath finish his NFL career? The <st1:city><st1>Los Angeles</st1></st1:city> Rams (1977). He was on the sidelines in the two games during which the Saints played the Rams that season. However, he had lost the starting job to Pat Haden early in the season after a disastrous performance against the Bears on MNF.
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Who was Namath&#8217;s football idol when he was growing up in western Pennsylvania? Johnny Unitas. In little league and high school, Namath wore the number 19. Namath&#8217;s biggest fame was Super Bowl <st1:stockticker>III</st1:stockticker> and his guarantee of a win. Unitas had been injured most of the 1968 season and didn&#8217;t start that Super Bowl. Unitas replaced Earl Morrall late in the game, with the Jets ahead 16-0. Unitas led one touchdown drive, but the Jets won, 16-7.<o>

</o>After the Super Bowl <st1:stockticker>III</st1:stockticker> victory, Namath became a football superstar and a pop celebrity. He was signed to perform in two motion pictures. Any ideas? Well, one was C.C. and Company (w/Ann Margaret) and the other was <st1:city><st1>Norwood </st1></st1:city>(w/Glen Campbell). Neither was Oscar-winning material, if you know what I mean. He also had a syndicated talk show in the Fall of 1969 with co-host Dick Schapp.<st1:city><st1></st1></st1:city><o></o>
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Assistant coaches on teams that advance to the Super Bowl are usually hot commodities for franchises searching for new head coaches. It&#8217;s been that way nearly every year, and 1969 was no exception. The winning Jets offensive coordinator was Clive Rush. He was hired after the Super Bowl by the Boston Patriots. Rush lasted less than 2 seasons. The Steelers hired Don Shula&#8217;s defensive coordinator from the losing Colts. Who was he? Chuck Noll. He coached <st1:city><st1>Pittsburgh</st1> </st1:city>to 4 Super Bowl victories after winning just one game in his first season.
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Largely because of Joe Namath, the Jets were scheduled on the premier of ABC&#8217;s Monday Night Football in 1970. They faced the Browns in Cleveland and lost, 30-20. It was a sign of things to come in the 1970&#8217;s for both Namath and the Jets. After Super Bowl <st1:stockticker>III</st1:stockticker>, Namath did not quarterback the Jets to a victory over a team with a winning record until December, 1974, when the Jets beat the playoff-bound Buffalo Bills in Shea Stadium.

<o></o> The winning Super Bowl coach for the Jets was Weeb Ewbank. One of his young defensive assistants was Buddy Ryan, who would later find fame as the architect of the &#8220;46&#8221; defense w/the 1985 Bears. Ryan served as HC with the Eagles and Arizona Cardinals. As we all know, his son Rex is currently head coach of the NYJ.
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In the early 1970&#8217;s, the Saints and Jets were frequent trading partners. In 1973, the teams swapped punters. Julian Fagan was traded to NY for Steve O&#8217;Neal. Each lasted only one season with their new teams. In that same year, the Saints traded Richard Neal, Delles Howell, and Margene Adkins to the NYJ for draft choices. The only player selected by the Saints who contributed was DE Steve Baumgartner. The Saints appeared to get even after the 1974 season when the team traded DE Billy Newsome to the NYJ for a 1st round draft choice. Unfortunately, the choice turned out to be &#8230; G Kurt Schumacher.<o>
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Weeb Ewbank retired from the Jets after the 1973 season. Who was his replacement? His son-in-law! No kidding, former Cardinals head coach Charley Winner became Jets head coach in 1974, but lasted only 2 seasons. His successor did even worse. Who was he? Lou Holtz, of course. Holtz didn&#8217;t even manage to complete one season in NY. Holtz had been HC at North Carolina State. After lasting less than one full season in NY, he went back to college coaching at Arkansas.
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Former Jets and Saints QB Richard Todd was a first-round draft choice by the Jets in 1976, from the University of Alabama. He had the unenviable task of trying to replace the legendary Namath. After the 1983 season, the Saints traded a 1st round draft choice to <st1:state><st1>the Jets for</st1></st1:state> Todd. Todd was a disappointment in a Saints uniform, lasting only 2 seasons (1984 and 1985). He was cut by Jim Mora in 1986. Who did the Jets pick with the choice obtained in the Todd trade? DE Ron Faurot from <st1:state><st1>the University of Arkansas. He, too, was a major disappointment.

</st1></st1:state> A year before the Saints trade (1983), Todd led the Jets to a tremendous 31-28 comeback win over the Saints before a huge Superdome crowd and MNF television audience. The Saints had dominated the first three quarters only to have the Jets rally to win the game in the 4th quarter. A long punt return for a TD by the Jets sealed the Saints fate. The Saints finished the 1983 season, one game short of a winning season and a playoff berth. The <st1:city><st1>Oakland </st1></st1:city>loss in 1979 is better remembered, but this loss to the Jets was just as painful.

In 1992, the Saints shut-out the Jets at the Meadowlands by the score of 12-0. The game clinched a home wildcard playoff berth the following week against the Eagles. The team finished 12-4, but one game behind <st1:city><st1>the 49'ers. </st1></st1:city>Despite the home field advantage, the Saints lost to the Eagles 36-20, after leading 20-7 in the 3rd quarter.<o></o>
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Think its tough being a Saints fan? 42 years of mostly disappointments and heartache. At least the Saints have never gone 3-13 and 1-15 in back-to-back seasons. The Jets and HC Rich Kotite accomplished such a feat in 1995 and 1996. Parcells came in and righted the ship in 1997, but he cost the team several high draft choices as compensation to the Patriots. The Jets reached the <st1:stockticker>AFC</st1:stockticker> Championship Game in 1998, but advanced no further under Parcells.

The 2001 game between the NYJ and Saints (played on a Sunday night) is remembered for the Kyle Turley helmet-throwing incident. The Saints lost the game, but the team rallied to post a 7-5 record going into the final four games. The team lost a MNF game to the Rams, and then was blown out by <st1></st1><st1:city>Tampa Bay, Washington, and San Francisco </st1:city>to end the season at 7-9. Dissension, distractions, and other behind-the-scenes problems were largely responsible.
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In 2005 (a.k.a. the Katrina season), the Saints won only 3 games &#8230; 2 of 3 came against AFC Eastern Division opponents. The Saints beat the Jets in the Meadowlands, and Buffalo (at the Alamodome in San Antonio).

Should be a great game on Sunday. Hope the home field advantage and veteran experience at QB makes the difference. Go, Saints, Go!
 
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I can't believe you missed the 1980 season, 1-15 with the only win coming against the Jets at Shea.....
 
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Great post, you should be commemorated for your knowledge of Saints and NFL history, if it indeed is your work. If not then good job digging it up and sharing.
 

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Great post. One correction...It was Kyle Turley...not Kyle Turning...unless that was a joke that I missed.
 
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I can't believe you missed the 1980 season, 1-15 with the only win coming against the Jets at Shea.....

You're right about that! Maybe I've tried to block out everything about that 1980 season. The Saints won by 1 point as the snow started to fall.
 
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Great post. One correction...It was Kyle Turley...not Kyle Turning...unless that was a joke that I missed.

Spelling error ... thanks for catching it.
 
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Forgot to mention Namath's famous appearance on the Brady Bunch in 1973. The episode aired this weekend on TVLand. Astroturf in the Brady backyard was appropriate ... at least for this episode.
 

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That sounds like my Saints. WHO DAT!!

Great Post. Thanks for sharing.
 

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