Saints D secondary looking scary good (1 Viewer)

fnholmes

Veteran
Joined
Oct 4, 2004
Messages
418
Reaction score
349
Location
Spring, TX by way of Chalmette
Offline
Kudos to Loomis and CSP as they have assembled a very strong looking group while losing an improving Bell. If the D Line can stay healthy this might be our best defense since SB team. With the late additions to the secondary I really do see the Saints going LB in the first round even if they have to move up. Who are the best prospects this year?
 
Joined
Jul 7, 2018
Messages
337
Reaction score
479
Age
36
Location
New York
Offline
Kudos to Loomis and CSP as they have assembled a very strong looking group while losing an improving Bell. If the D Line can stay healthy this might be our best defense since SB team. With the late additions to the secondary I really do see the Saints going LB in the first round even if they have to move up. Who are the best prospects this year?
It really comes down to 2 players at LB: Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen. They’re both fast and explosive with Murray more of a run stopper with great explosion into the backfield, moving forward he’s excellent. Reminds many of Stephone Anthony due to looking completely lost moving backwards and in coverage. Queen is faster than Murray, not quite as explosive moving forward but he looks like a db moving backwards and in coverage.
I think Queen is more of a modern lb being better against the pass but he’s undersized and gets washed out when blockers gets their hands on him. He does do a great job using his phenomenal lateral agility to beat blockers though. I prefer Queen
 

JvilleJoe

Subscribing Member
VIP Contributor
Platinum VIP Contributor
Joined
Feb 19, 2000
Messages
9,664
Reaction score
2,951
Offline
I agree with your assessment. We should have an experienced leader in the secondary in Jenkins getting the youngsters playing better and understanding what the offenses are trying to do. I have been saying for awhile now that I sure would like to see us go LB in round one. There are two or three guys who may be available at 24, although as you noted we may have to move up a few spots to get a guy like Murray. There is also Queen from LSU and a guy named Baun who I like alot. If we do not go LB in round 1, I believe there is a good possibility that CB could be a position we look to add depth to. Of course, Coach Payton could just as easily surprise many of us by going RB or evben QB if one he like falls! Should be interesting to watch unfold on draft day!
 
Joined
Jul 7, 2018
Messages
337
Reaction score
479
Age
36
Location
New York
Offline
I agree with your assessment. We should have an experienced leader in the secondary in Jenkins getting the youngsters playing better and understanding what the offenses are trying to do. I have been saying for awhile now that I sure would like to see us go LB in round one. There are two or three guys who may be available at 24, although as you noted we may have to move up a few spots to get a guy like Murray. There is also Queen from LSU and a guy named Baun who I like alot. If we do not go LB in round 1, I believe there is a good possibility that CB could be a position we look to add depth to. Of course, Coach Payton could just as easily surprise many of us by going RB or evben QB if one he like falls! Should be interesting to watch unfold on draft day!
Hurry up draft day!! Lol
Baun looks good but he doesn’t seem as explosive as the other two on tape and is more of a pass rusher type.
 

jasonsw

Swimmer is my friend
Joined
Jul 2, 2019
Messages
1,944
Reaction score
4,720
Age
39
Location
Bastrop
Offline
I would say the last couple years the defense has been good. They just need to find a way to generate more turnover. The 09 team was great at that. That being said if they stay healthy they will be scary good. Most everyone on that D is young and have opportunities to improve.

The D also has excellent leadership on all 3 levels.
 

Hey BAY BAY!!!

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Messages
3,938
Reaction score
2,350
Offline
Murray the best LBER in draft. IMO.
Hooe Saints go after Te'Von Te'Von Coney. Hes a FA. Drafted by Raiders but got cut from the final 53. Sign Coney, sign Ogletree, and draft Murray. Set with....

Anzalone, DD, Kiko
Ellis, Coney, Ogletree
Murray, T'eo
 

Deucewildin

Rookie
Joined
Dec 30, 2015
Messages
511
Reaction score
633
Offline
Yea this secondary is scary I’m good with PRob being Backup Nickel behind CGJ and drafting a Outside CB to compete with or backup Jenkins

Also wouldn’t mind bringing back PJ as a Dual Safety
 

SaintsSwag

Hall-Of-Famer
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
1,878
Location
Pineville, Louisiana
Offline
It really comes down to 2 players at LB: Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen. They’re both fast and explosive with Murray more of a run stopper with great explosion into the backfield, moving forward he’s excellent. Reminds many of Stephone Anthony due to looking completely lost moving backwards and in coverage. Queen is faster than Murray, not quite as explosive moving forward but he looks like a db moving backwards and in coverage.
I think Queen is more of a modern lb being better against the pass but he’s undersized and gets washed out when blockers gets their hands on him. He does do a great job using his phenomenal lateral agility to beat blockers though. I prefer Queen

Dont forget about Zach Baun from Wisconson

Dudes a stud!

Hes that bigger LB that this team needs. Someone who can set the edge and blow things up.

Hes also pretty decent in coverage as well.

In this NFL, you have to be
 

Chris

Super Forum Fanatic
VIP Contributor
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
10,803
Reaction score
11,079
Offline
P-Rob was bad here. Leaves to eagles is a stud. Comes back and [Mod Edit - Read the rules] doesn't play well. Same with Roman Harper. Seems saints are the problem
Yep, and this is why I'm not onboard the Malcolm Jenkins train. He was awful when he left the Saints, and he mysteriously shined when he was with the Eagles. Hopefully, he won't revert back to his old non-productive ways when he returns.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

JackDiesel

SR is my life!
VIP Contributor
Joined
Feb 27, 2008
Messages
13,852
Reaction score
13,134
Location
Lafayette, LA
Offline
Currently, Patrick Robinson is the top backup CB for both the boundary and slot CB spots... that’s not good IMO.
When P-Rob saw the field last season, he had a couple of good moments (but more bad) and opposing QBs immediately targeted him when they saw #21 on the field
Exactly. Our secondary isn't scary good until we get some better depth at CB. And Williams needs to stop screwing up in crucial moments.
 
Joined
Jul 7, 2018
Messages
337
Reaction score
479
Age
36
Location
New York
Offline
Dont forget about Zach Baun from Wisconson

Dudes a stud!

Hes that bigger LB that this team needs. Someone who can set the edge and blow things up.

Hes also pretty decent in coverage as well.

In this NFL, you have to be
I’ve gotta scout the guy more but isn’t he only like 235? That’s kinda small and not sure he’s any good at coverage at all being mostly a pass rusher. Be back shortly after looking at his tape
 

los226

Hall-of-Famer
Joined
Aug 13, 2011
Messages
5,745
Reaction score
7,990
Online
P-Rob was bad here. Leaves to eagles is a stud. Comes back [Mod Edit - Read the rules] doesn't play well. Same with Roman Harper. Seems saints are the problem
I need to see the Saints have a good secondary on Sunday’s. Having it on paper means nothing to me. Superfan is right, we always seem to have problems no matter what talent, DB coach, or d-coordinator. Maybe going against Drew Brees every practice is the reason they tend to have problems on game day.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

SaintsSwag

Hall-Of-Famer
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
1,878
Location
Pineville, Louisiana
Offline
I’ve gotta scout the guy more but isn’t he only like 235? That’s kinda small and not sure he’s any good at coverage at all being mostly a pass rusher. Be back shortly after looking at his tape

Lol, you know what I just spent all this time watching his tape, and I forgot to look at his measurables.

Your right, hes about Demario Davis's size, I think hes a little taller, and maybe a little lighter. I do feel like his frame could hold 260.

He seems so much bigger on tape, but yeah my mistake.

I still like him though, and his skillset.

I love Murray as well, so I'm fine with either.

I think it's a good time right now for any young LB headed to NO.

I couldnt think of anyone better to sit under then Demario Davis. Especially for Murray
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
Nolaboy1970 Saints Saints 2009 season Saints Super Forum (Main Board) 0
Dan in Lafayette 10 questions with New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Dennis Allen SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette Saints Eyeing Up the Enemy: Denver Broncos SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette Saints can extend dominance in Prime Time Games for 2020 SR News Page Articles 0
Dre Kirkpatrick an interesting free agent option remaining for the Saints Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Fleur-de-Links, July 7: Jonathan Vilma talks on his move to broadcasting and Saints OC answers questions Saints RSS News Feeds 0
7 Pro Bowl Linebackers in a game (92 Saints Bills) Saints Super Forum (Main Board) 32
Andrus Saints Countdown to NFL Kickoff 2020: #70 Jammal Brown (July 5th) SR News Page Articles 0
Johnson: Maybe it's not fair to compare Saints' Tommy Stevens to Taysom Hill — but it's hard not to Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Andrus What NFL teams best prepared to lose a QB to coronavirus? Ranking 1-32 | Saints’ Jameis Winston or Cowboys’ Andy Dalton No. 1? SR News Page Articles 0
Andrus Saints D-line coach says Marcus Davenport 'definitely has room to get better' even after strong second season SR News Page Articles 0
Saints UDFA Profile: Michigan State linebacker Joe Bachie Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Holiday happiness is remembering Saints wins over the Falcons Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints expecting more from Marcus Davenport Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Fleur-de-Links, July 3: 49ers troll Saints and when Kiko Alonso is expected to return Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints banking on healthy, enthusiastic Marcus Davenport. 'He's put the work in' Saints RSS News Feeds 0
49ers promote masks, with a shot at the Saints Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Fleur-de-Links, July 2: Saints preseason cut in half and Deuce McAllister talks Latavius Murray Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Dan in Lafayette Alvin Kamara’s cryptic tweet has New Orleans Saints fans in a frenzy SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette Deuce McAllister on the Saints Running Backs SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette NFL to shorten 2020 preseason, Saints to open against Steelers on the road SR News Page Articles 0
Catching up with Deuce McAllister the Saints, the coronavirus and his golf game Saints RSS News Feeds 0
NFL to cut preseason in half; Saints to lose out on games vs. Rams and Dolphins Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Interviews: Saints legends Jonathan Vilma and Deuce McAllister Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Reliving some of our worst Saints vs Falcons memories Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints fantasy position groups: Wide Receivers Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Dan in Lafayette Former Saints LB Jonathan Vilma has high hopes for 2020 Saints defense SR News Page Articles 0
Fleur-de-Links, July 1: More from Latavius Murray and Cam Jordan ranks #2 in overall sacks for the Saints Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Super44 Non-Saints...but related to the virus and potential rate of infections, for college football. Saints Super Forum (Main Board) 3
Former Saints LB Jonathan Vilma looking forward to challenge of the broadcast booth Saints RSS News Feeds 0
How Saints rank in quarterback play in Super Bowl era Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints roster battles to watch on offense, part one Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints urge mask wearing Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Dan in Lafayette Saints Hall of Fame career of Roman Harper: An Interview SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette Saints WR Tre'Quan Smith is primed for a breakout season in 2020 SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette Saints Notes & Quotes: Mrs. Benson, Brees, Jenkins,Harper, Evans, and NFLPA SR News Page Articles 0
Saints coach on the art and science of training during a pandemic — with the help of Excel Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints running back Alvin Kamara has become NASCAR’s newest, biggest fan Saints RSS News Feeds 0
DerrickB Video How long will Jeff Ireland Continue his Role as Assistant Gm/College Scout Director with the Saints? Saints Super Forum (Main Board) 33
What makes Jadeveon Clowney a perfect fit for the Saints Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Fleur-de-Links, June 29: Jadeveon Clowney interested in the Saints, and how the Saints became interested in Adam Trautman Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Saints infatuation with rookie tight end Adam Trautman began at the Senior Bowl Saints RSS News Feeds 0
Dan in Lafayette Saints’ QB Drew Brees to sponsor Black College Football event SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette What should the Saints do with Alvin Kamara? SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette 40 best remaining free agent options for the Saints SR News Page Articles 0
Dan in Lafayette Larry Holder on Saints training camp and biggest surprises for upcoming season SR News Page Articles 0
mandevillekevin 8x10 Saints photo help Saints Super Forum (Main Board) 9
Gumbo's Dad Has the recent politicization of the Saints decreased your enthusiasm for or interest in the Saints? Everything Else Board 122
Andrus Report: Clowney to sign with Saints or Cowboys? SR News Page Articles 0
Andrus New Orleans Saints receivers coach Ronald Curry utilizing information, wisdom gleaned from QB Coaching Summit SR News Page Articles 0
Similar threads




















































Headlines

Top Bottom