Saints Perfect 3-way trade (point value equality) (1 Viewer)

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Teams involved include Dallas, New Orleans, and Miami

Saints Get:
Dallas pick #'s 22(1st), 28(1st), 61(2nd)

Dolphins Get:
N.O. pick #'s 10(1st), 40(2nd)
Dallas pick #'s 122(4th)
Exclusive rights to Dal RB Marion Barber

Cowboys Get
Miami pick #'s 1(1st)


Basically, dallas needs to swap 2nd rounders with us for the right point value. The first overall is worth almost exactly what the Dolphins get. This trade would be equal value almost number for number.

I also think it would put all three teams exactly where they wanted to be.

This would be excellent for us because I feel we get a starting DT and MLB with Dallas' first two picks. Miami gets a boatload of picks and a starting RB. And Dallas gets McFadden

I think this will really happen because it is one of the few managable trades involving only teams that obviously want to move around, especially if we ink Samuel
 
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exactly. why not just trade the two first rounders and barber for the #1 pick?

Because the point value falls about 600 points short. If Dallas and Miami trade, it would almost definetly require a third team involved. They need our higher 2nd round pick. Either that or Dallas would have to ship off some high round future picks

1st overall is 3000

10th overall is 1300

22nd overall is about 800
28 is about 720
 

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I don't know. The reason why you see three way trades happen in the NBA is because of cash considerations, that player salary having to be equal thing, and some teams trying to dump off big contracts on teams that have a lot of room. None of those happen in the NFL so the only way I see a threesome happening is if each team wants a different player. Since all we have to throw in is a pick...I just don't know.
 

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It actually makes sense. The difference between a 2 way trade and this one is that instead of Miami getting 2 high firsts they get the #10.

I'm leaning towards believing Miami really needs all the picks they can get so they would just take the 2 first rounders. What i'm curious to see is what they do with Marion Barber. If a 3rd team came into this trade I believe it would be so Miami can dump Barber for another high first rounder or low 2nd. Someone like Oakland would be a good suiter for that.
 

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Trades involving three teams are very rare in the NFL.
 

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Do teams actually use the points value system to work out trades? And if so, why?

I get the principle, but it assumes that the correlation between the pick/talent ratio being a constant every year... With the quality of players right throughout the draft changing every year and the quality of the entire class changing year on year, I'm not sure you can make that case. So unless the numbers change year on year, with respect to the quality of the overall draft, I can't really see it being an effective system. A lot of people have made the case that this year that the top pick isn't worth having (not just for Miami but for anyone).
 

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Points are value on paper. Football is played on the field.
 

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Maybe I'm blind, but I don't really see the advantage for Miami in this. Dallas is obvious because they want McFadden, but why would Miami want Marion Barber? Getting a player they don't need and gaining only 2 picks while dropping back 9 spaces from the top spot isn't a deal I'd take.
 

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The points system/trade chart is over rated. Teams are actually working on fixing it to take into account the amount of $$$ a high first round pick will take to get signed. The point value may be great, so its tough to trade up. But the money is costs makes teams want to trade out.

Regardless, adding Marion Barber to that scenario is worth more than the 600 points lacking. A proven NFL pro bowl RB is greater value that the 40th overall pick, anyday.
 

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The points system/trade chart is over rated. Teams are actually working on fixing it to take into account the amount of $$$ a high first round pick will take to get signed. The point value may be great, so its tough to trade up. But the money is costs makes teams want to trade out.

Regardless, adding Marion Barber to that scenario is worth more than the 600 points lacking. A proven NFL pro bowl RB is greater value that the 40th overall pick, anyday.

Does anyone have a link to the point system?
 
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Miami almost ceratinly wants a starting quality running back because Brown is still rehabbing his acl. Probowler Barber would be great for them. One less draft need for them.

Draft pick trades almost always revolve around the point system. Barber definetly counts for a first rounder in a trade. There have been several articles in the past citing how GM's effectively use the point value system.

I really think that for a Dallas and Miami deal to get done, a third team would have to get involved. It's what kept them from dealing last week when the rumors were floating. Dallas just dosen't have a stack that adds up without getting someone else involved. The key for our involvement is our position in round 1&2.
 
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Why would Dallas do this?

Why would Dallas give up 2 - 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder, a 4th rounder, and Barber for the 1st pick?

I would bet a lot of money that Parcells would take 2 #1's and Barber straight up for
#1 overall.


This is interesting for a Saints fan, but crazy stupid for Dallas.
 

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