Analysis Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense (2 Viewers)

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I tend to disagree, our only problem against Carolina was not having our starting center and offensive line coaches.

The WR corps they're so quick to denigrate looked just fine against GB.
The WR corps did not look fine against GB. Other than the garbage time bomb from Harris, the WR group combined for 4 catches for 46 yards. Add Harris’ bomb and you get 5 for 101.

Most of the #1 WR in the league average more than that by themselves.

The Saints passing offense is dead last in the league right now. The lowly Jets are 70 yards a game better after two games.
 

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When you neglect the WR in every draft since MT, this is what you have. I had to look when to see when TQS was drafted. That’s how much of an impact he’s been, 2018 3rd round that can’t stay on the field. We have undrafted and fringe players starting. The team even made a conscious decision to not retain sanders after last season. You just can’t find that many diamonds in the rough with our WR corps we have. God, I have no idea why stills isn’t on the active roster at this point.
 

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The WR corps did not look fine against GB. Other than the garbage time bomb from Harris, the WR group combined for 4 catches for 46 yards. Add Harris’ bomb and you get 5 for 101.

Most of the #1 WR in the league average more than that by themselves.

The Saints passing offense is dead last in the league right now. The lowly Jets are 70 yards a game better after two games.

Keeping in mind we only threw 19 passes and completed 13. It was a heavy run game because we were running all over them.
 

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That doesn’t mean the WRs were fine, it means they weren’t tested.

And it doesn't mean they weren't fine either. Callaway was our leading receiver in our first game against the Panthers last year. Caught 8 balls.
 

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…I also hope our offensive line play last week was an anomaly (and I think it was), getting McCoy back sooner rather than later would help....
McCoy is legitimately one of the best Centers in the entire NFL, and he is still getting better! Losing him is HUGE, and that’s not hyperbole.

Not only did they lose McCoy, but they replaced him with a guy that has been training at RG, hasn’t been making the OL calls pre-snap, and he didn’t have the OL coach available during pre-game prep or on the sidelines for in-game adjustments! It was bound to be a disaster!

Name 5 current Centers in the NFL that are better than McCoy RIGHT NOW… and like I said, McCoy is still getting better. His absence can’t be understated.
 
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That doesn’t mean the WRs were fine, it means they weren’t tested.
True.

And it doesn't mean they weren't fine either.
True.

We need to see better o-line play and a larger sample size before we panic over the receivers. It takes time for guys to get on the same page, especially when there's a new QB. And also, teams missing their #1 star receiver usually struggle more than most. That said, I do feel like this is one of the weaker groups on the team, but it should get much better as the season goes along and we get a few guys back.
 
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True.


True.

We need to see better o-line play and a larger sample size before we panic over the receivers. It takes time for guys to get on the same page, especially when there's a new QB. And also, teams missing their #1 star receiver usually struggle more than most. That said, I do feel like this is one of the weaker groups on the team, but it should get much better as the season goes along and we get a few guys back.
Right, you cant evaluate the receivers ability to get separation if the QB is getting hit by the time he reaches his dropback point.
 

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Probably through the first 2 games one of the worst WR sets in recent nfl history. I’ll admit I tried to be positive in camp but dang. They just dont
 

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McCoy is legitimately one of the best Centers in the entire NFL, and he is still getting better! Losing him is HUGE, and that’s not hyperbole.

Not only did they lose McCoy, but they replaced him with a guy that has been training at RG, hasn’t been making the OL calls pre-snap, and he didn’t have the OL coach available during pre-game prep or on the sidelines for in-game adjustments! It was bound to be a disaster!

Name 5 current Centers in the NFL that are better than McCoy RIGHT NOW… and like I said, McCoy is still getting better. His absence can’t be understated.

I totally agree with above....
 

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When you neglect the WR in every draft since MT, this is what you have. I had to look when to see when TQS was drafted. That’s how much of an impact he’s been, 2018 3rd round that can’t stay on the field. We have undrafted and fringe players starting. The team even made a conscious decision to not retain sanders after last season. You just can’t find that many diamonds in the rough with our WR corps we have. God, I have no idea why stills isn’t on the active roster at this point.
Let's be honest, nobody (when MT was drafted) knew he would turn out to be the type of player he turned out to be, Thomas was a 2nd round pick and TQS was a 3rd so the position WAS invested in and we do have a pretty good track record of getting production out of lower drafted or UDFA WR and RB's so developing players like Calloway, Harris and LJH is not exactly a shot in the dark hoping they turn out to be players considering the production of players like Colston, Henderson, Moore and Graham in this offense.
 

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If the Saints are counting on MT to be anything but a disgruntled diva when he comes back I'm afraid they're going to be disappointed.

Not that he won't still be one of the best, he will, but so was T.O. He was also a cancer.
 

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I know Gordon has been a knucklehead for basically his entire career… and he hasn’t played in quite a while… but…

I’d bet money he’s better right now than LJH, Hogan, Montgomery, and every WR on the practice squad.
How old is he now? One good season.
 

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