Saints to Release Latavius Murray (1 Viewer)

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I have always thought of Murray as an average back. In our dash to win a Super Bowl during Drew's twilight years as a player, we overpaid (as do most teams) in free agency. We overpaid Murray. This is not a Super Bowl year. It seems time to right the ship for a run in future years.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saints could’ve asked Latavius Murray to take a pay cut in March. Probably expected he wouldn’t, but would’ve had options in FA. They ask him to take a pay cut 5 days b4 season starts. Thinking his bck is against the wall and would say yes. He says no and gets released. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DIRTY?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#DIRTY</a></p>&mdash; shannon sharpe (@ShannonSharpe) <a href="">September 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Or maybe the Saints had every intention to keep him until he looked awful and was beat like a drum
against a guy on a minimum salary in the preseason.
 

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Honestly, I am not surprised by this especially the way Jones has been playing.
 

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Wow... We kept him over Jack Rabbit, Brown, or Sanders is an unfortunate error.
Seeing as we seem to be looking for a DB every other day Jenkins was a huge loss. It's odd we didn't have a plan when we released him cause we've brought in like 5 or 6 DB's.

I never liked letting Sanders go but that one hurt a lot because of Thomas waiting so long for surgery.

As for Murray, I'm surprised.
 

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Now let me say this without getting jumped on, but if Murray didn't fumble in the first drive of the first preseason game and we scored, would that have effected the qb situation. For the record i'm down with team winston! and i'd rather have taysom playing multi roles
 
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I was all for signing Murray, but for a big back, he went down fairly easily. He was never as good of a power back as Ingram. Still, I thought he had value and I'd have used him more. But this year, if you couldn't see how slow he was, with a lack of burst, and vision (and seemingly a lack of effort). It was awful, I don't know how he made the final 53. He did us a favor by not taking the salary cut, as he was a waste of a roster spot. Murray isn't the first RB that fell off a cliff at 31. Not everyone can be a Frank Gore. We saved money, and we are better off without him. The truth hurts sometimes. Thank you for the last two years, but you can't beat father time.
 

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I was a bit surprised at the timing of this. Under the old preseason format, after the second person game, you talk to a veteran you wanted to keep for less money and his agent and make an offer of cut after the third preseason game or pay cut. Usually if they refused the pay cut and egos didn't get involved, you would leave the offer open to be resigned after week 1 if they didn't find a better deal.

The deal may still be on the table for Murray after week 1, but this is not how Loomis's front office typically works. Maybe the 3 game preseason with the loss of game 3 messed things up but still, this is odd.

Maybe there's more to the story.
 

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Not sure what kind of pay cut the Saints asked for... but no other team is giving him a multi-year million dollar contract. If he does get signed by another team, it's most likely a vet minimum deal (or incentive laden - which he'll never get as a backup RB). He's 31 years old and doesn't pay ST. It's time for both him and his agent to look in the mirror.
 

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know let me say this without getting jumped on but if he didn't fumble in the first drive of the first preseason game and we scored, who how that would have affected the qb situation. but for the record i'm down with team winston! and i'd rather have taysom playing multi roles
I read this three times, and still have no clue.
 
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One big problem with Shannon's proclamation that the Saints did him dirty: Jackrabbit came the closest I've ever seen to gushing about how the Saints treat their players, especially seasoned veterans. Likely they've got a move in the works and they need to free up cap space and Murray's probably the easiest cap space to shave. They asked him to take a pay cut and he refused, with Murray knowing what the consequences would be. It's a business.
 

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I was all for signing Murray, but for a big back, he went down fairly easily. He was never as good of a power back as Ingram. Still, I thought he had value and I'd have used him more. But this year, if you couldn't see how slow he was, with a lack of burst, and vision (and seemingly a lack of effort). It was awful, I don't know how he made the final 53. He did us a favor by not taking the salary cut, as he was a waste of a roster spot. Murray isn't the first RB that fell off a cliff at 31. Not everyone can be a Frank Gore. We saved money, and we are better off without him. The truth hurts sometimes. Thank you for the last two years, but you can't beat father time.
He was the total opposite of what you just described.

Murray was a solid #2 back to the style of Kamara, Murray complimented him well. In short yardage a back that is 6"3 225lbs is not falling backwards, Murray consistently fell forward and had the speed to break off a few long runs.

Jones Jr has that Pierre Thomas feel and could be what Pierre was to Bush as a back that can run, catch and protect and take on a role as a rusher to give Kamara a rest and exploit more of his overall ability.

Necessary move but Murray did produce. Jones just got promoted and he looks to be a good addition to offense because he fits a position that's been carved out already.
 
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Looks like our RB depth chart will be
RB1 - Kamara
RB2 - T. Jones Jr.
RB3/WR - Montgomery
RB4 - Washington

Montgomery probably will only be considered WR depth while Thomas is hurt. When Thomas comes back, the WRs are Thomas, Callaway, Smith, Harris, Humphrey, and Hogan. More than enough WRs that will revert Montgomery back to primarily RB on the depth chart, if he’s not already. There’s still 5 WRs without Thomas, and not including Montgomery. Cutting Murray sounds like Montgomery is a better 3rd RB.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saints could’ve asked Latavius Murray to take a pay cut in March. Probably expected he wouldn’t, but would’ve had options in FA. They ask him to take a pay cut 5 days b4 season starts. Thinking his bck is against the wall and would say yes. He says no and gets released. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DIRTY?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#DIRTY</a></p>&mdash; shannon sharpe (@ShannonSharpe) <a href="">September 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well Shay… since you don’t pa much attention to the Saints I think it’s only right that you know that Murray got beat out by a 2nd year UDFA in AUGUST. It’s fun to speculate on what they could have done and what you think Murray was gonna say, but the fact is it’s STUPID to pay your 3rd string running back 4 million dollars.

Now tweet that.
 
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Well Shay… since you don’t pa much attention to the Saints I think it’s only right that you know that Murray got beat out by a 2nd year UDFA in AUGUST. It’s fun to speculate on what they could have done and what you think Murray was gonna say, but the fact is it’s STUPID to pay your 3rd string running back 4 million dollars.

Now tweet that.
Very clueless, irresponsible tweet by Shannon Sharpe not realizing the younger second year RB Tony Jones outplayed Murray in TC and preseason, which made Murray expendable and costly as a backup RB. But these are the kind of sensationalized Undisputed takes Sharpe has to make the Saints look bad in media.
 

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