Scarlett Johansson standing up for herself for the roles she has played. (1 Viewer)

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Amazing how she is getting attacked for this.
 

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Amazing how she is getting attacked for this.
i love her. to consider her racist for these statements, i can't see it being worse than anything the writer's point of view is trying to turn it into.
 

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Imagine a white person speculating about why black people tend to clump together in poorer urban areas instead in the safer suburban areas
It’s not a racist question but it’s naive as ****

On its face her comment is fine and true
But it’s naive as ****
It completely lacks the context that ‘she’ used to have ALL of the roles
All she needs to do is look at the controversy about the Ariel casting (a frickin mythological mermaid character) to realize how much the system was stacked in her favor since it’s inception

If she would recognize that “yes, the system was very bad for actors of color before” she should understand that all the energy and effort that went into creating that system will need to be met with a similar amount of energy/effort to dismantle the system

If the housing speculator gets informed and is like ‘wow, the housing system was crazy stacked against black families’ that’s not a conclusion- that doesn’t end anything- that’s the beginning o the process to fix past injustice
 

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Not to worry she says she was misquoted in her incendiary comments about playing whatever role she's gets cast to play and has revised and extended her remarks to include obligatory comments about white/cis gender privilege, etc, etc

“I recognize that in reality, there is a wide spread discrepancy amongst my industry that favors Caucasian, cis gendered actors and that not every actor has been given the same opportunities that I have been privileged to,” she said. “I continue to support, and always have, diversity in every industry and will continue to fight for projects where everyone is included."

We can now rest easy that Ariel* can be black and ScarJo can only play straight white females. We're good now.


* We need a separate Disney Princesses thread to address all the problematic themes in those movies - I mean Ariel is a runaway teen who subjugates her own identity and literally gives up her talent for an older man.
 
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whether it's her publicist or not i don't really care
i don't think it was clock bait, i think the interviewer lobbed in the PC question and she bit hard - she should have had the wherewithal to see/dodge that question
but regardless she has made her amends

and to those of us snickering about this, please search out the reactions of people wh describe how important/empowering it is to see someone who looks like them represented positively on screen
just because we don't think it's important doesn't mean it's not important
 

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I'm going to ignore the cutural-appropriating (to put it mildly) "we people of color" comment from an Oriental Asian...

... anyway... Johansson is right. She should be allowed (not ought to have, as the writer reworded it ; takes a different meaning, don't you think?) to play any role for which she nails the audition. She's an actress actor, after all. Being of a certain race, gender, or condition, doesn't mean an actor can portray the role the way the director envisions.

Bryan Cranston got a lot of heat for playing a guy in a wheel chair, and there are actors who are in wheel chairs, but being in a wheel chair doesn't make anyone a better actor than Bryan Cranston.

There are anorexic looking actors, but that doesn't make them better actors than Christian Bale.

I can go on with other examples, but of course, the main point of that piece is race and white privilege, which is a touchy subject in our society, because of the history of discrimination in this country. However, I don't think Hollywood is the right industry to point fingers at.

What I find ironic about that piece, is that Yeoung adds a picture of Johansson in her role in Ghost in the Shell next to the animated character, and just about every character in anime has Caucasian features.
 

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I think a lot of sites have absolutely been leaving out parts of what she said and doing some heavy editorializing before getting to the actual quotes towards the end of the articles (I don't know if you want to call that clickbait or not). I have seen it on a bunch of sites.

I don't think she has gone about this very well, and could still stand to listen and think a bit more about the subject, but I'm really just not getting the level of anger people have towards her for these recent comments.

She mentions "an ideal world" and that she recognizes the privilege that she has had access to and that she supports diversity and inclusion. I think it's fair to say that she does not understand her privilege as well as she thinks but man, I've seen real vitriol and horrible things said about her in the last 24 hours (not talking about this thread).

I just don't think this was that bad.
 

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I think a lot of sites have absolutely been leaving out parts of what she said and doing some heavy editorializing before getting to the actual quotes towards the end of the articles (I don't know if you want to call that clickbait or not). I have seen it on a bunch of sites.

I don't think she has gone about this very well, and could still stand to listen and think a bit more about the subject, but I'm really just not getting the level of anger people have towards her for these recent comments.

She mentions "an ideal world" and that she recognizes the privilege that she has had access to and that she supports diversity and inclusion. I think it's fair to say that she does not understand her privilege as well as she thinks but man, I've seen real vitriol and horrible things said about her in the last 24 hours (not talking about this thread).

I just don't think this was that bad.
This sounds about right
 

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I'm going to ignore the cutural-appropriating (to put it mildly) "we people of color" comment from an Oriental Asian...

... anyway... Johansson is right. She should be allowed (not ought to have, as the writer reworded it ; takes a different meaning, don't you think?) to play any role for which she nails the audition. She's an actress actor, after all. Being of a certain race, gender, or condition, doesn't mean an actor can portray the role the way the director envisions.

Bryan Cranston got a lot of heat for playing a guy in a wheel chair, and there are actors who are in wheel chairs, but being in a wheel chair doesn't make anyone a better actor than Bryan Cranston.

There are anorexic looking actors, but that doesn't make them better actors than Christian Bale.

I can go on with other examples, but of course, the main point of that piece is race and white privilege, which is a touchy subject in our society, because of the history of discrimination in this country. However, I don't think Hollywood is the right industry to point fingers at.

What I find ironic about that piece, is that Yeoung adds a picture of Johansson in her role in Ghost in the Shell next to the animated character, and just about every character in anime has Caucasian features.
Let’s establish a baseline
Do you think representation is important?
 

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Let’s establish a baseline
Do you think representation is important?
Representation for representation's sake?

I am currently watching a series on Netflix about a U.S. citizen involved in the drug trade who crosses into México running from the police, and ends up becoming a higher up in a cartel. The series shifts back and forth from Sonora/SInaloa to Arizona. None of the actors are U.S. citizens. Should there be representation from U.S. citizens?
 

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I am for diversity and acting roles should go to the actor that can portray a role or thought to portray a role to the best of an audience's expectations/enjoyment. What I am not for is recasting a previously established role with another actor that is of a different race or gender simply for the fact that they are of a different race or gender.
 

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The above post was actually a comment about how seriously people take themselves these days.

Downy Jr. (I used the obvious Johansson connection) played a comedic role and I had no problem with it.

The movie came out in 2008 and there was a little grumbling about it. I wonder how it would be received today. Or if it would have been made the same way?

I do have a problem with actors playing other races in most cases (social commentary or comedic purposes are two exceptions).

My point is PC is quickly replacing common sense in society.
 

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