CoolBrees
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I believe that the mental health angle is used because it is easy to point to but impossible to solve.
But more importantly, the mentally ill is a group no one is worried about offending by pinning the blame on them. People with schizophrenia don’t have a very effective lobby. It gives everything else a pass.
My wife is a social worker and currently works with chronically mentally Ill adults who are in supervised, supportive housing via court order or family petition. Criminals who were deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial.
Because one political party (who now scream for mental illness legislation) eliminated the state institutions and privatized them, most criminally insane are not in prison or a hospital - they are in a group home down the street from you right now. Child rapists, murderers and everyone in between.
In other words the exact people we are discussing here that shouldn’t have a gun.
Here in Oregon they can’t buy a gun. In Louisiana, only a handful wouldn’t be able to as most weren’t convicted of anything.
Also, I don’t know if there is enough money; but I am certain there aren’t enough mental health professionals to even begin to address this. And there aren’t more coming.
Requiring a Master’s, while offering $40k, for 60 hour weeks to deal with the lowest rung of society; with no resources or hope of meaningful advancement, isn’t exactly a great job pitch. At least teachers get their summer off.
The fact is, those that work within the system were in it themselves more often than not. The foster care system is basically run by former foster kids. Thank jeebus Dave Thomas of Wendy’s was a foster kid or nationally we wouldn’t even have a program. Literally no national foster program.
Since my preferred method of only allowing flintlocks and muskets for gun owners won’t pass the NRA sycophants, for me, you need to focus on the next best thing - keeping weapons away from these people.
That means much stricter national gun laws. Perhaps use my state as a guide. Once I. Effect, we will have the strictest gun laws in America but we also issue more hunting tags than most other states. Hunting was not affected outside of the safety class
Oregon’s new law (when it goes into effect) : Measure 114 passed in November carried by voters in the state’s urban centers. The new law, will require anyone purchasing a firearm to first take a gun safety course and obtain a permit. It also bans magazines holding more than 10 rounds and closes the so-called Charleston loophole, the federal law which allows a firearms transfer to go forward if a background check is not completed after three days.
Registration at purchase. Closes the Charleston loophole. No straw purchases without background check, limited magazine capacity to 10 rounds.
Anyone want to argue that isn’t reasonable?
But more importantly, the mentally ill is a group no one is worried about offending by pinning the blame on them. People with schizophrenia don’t have a very effective lobby. It gives everything else a pass.
My wife is a social worker and currently works with chronically mentally Ill adults who are in supervised, supportive housing via court order or family petition. Criminals who were deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial.
Because one political party (who now scream for mental illness legislation) eliminated the state institutions and privatized them, most criminally insane are not in prison or a hospital - they are in a group home down the street from you right now. Child rapists, murderers and everyone in between.
In other words the exact people we are discussing here that shouldn’t have a gun.
Here in Oregon they can’t buy a gun. In Louisiana, only a handful wouldn’t be able to as most weren’t convicted of anything.
Also, I don’t know if there is enough money; but I am certain there aren’t enough mental health professionals to even begin to address this. And there aren’t more coming.
Requiring a Master’s, while offering $40k, for 60 hour weeks to deal with the lowest rung of society; with no resources or hope of meaningful advancement, isn’t exactly a great job pitch. At least teachers get their summer off.
The fact is, those that work within the system were in it themselves more often than not. The foster care system is basically run by former foster kids. Thank jeebus Dave Thomas of Wendy’s was a foster kid or nationally we wouldn’t even have a program. Literally no national foster program.
Since my preferred method of only allowing flintlocks and muskets for gun owners won’t pass the NRA sycophants, for me, you need to focus on the next best thing - keeping weapons away from these people.
That means much stricter national gun laws. Perhaps use my state as a guide. Once I. Effect, we will have the strictest gun laws in America but we also issue more hunting tags than most other states. Hunting was not affected outside of the safety class
Oregon’s new law (when it goes into effect) : Measure 114 passed in November carried by voters in the state’s urban centers. The new law, will require anyone purchasing a firearm to first take a gun safety course and obtain a permit. It also bans magazines holding more than 10 rounds and closes the so-called Charleston loophole, the federal law which allows a firearms transfer to go forward if a background check is not completed after three days.
Registration at purchase. Closes the Charleston loophole. No straw purchases without background check, limited magazine capacity to 10 rounds.
Anyone want to argue that isn’t reasonable?
