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It's about time that we had a thread devoted to cool science news. I'm always seeing interesting articles about various science related news and I know I'm not seeing half of what's out there. Let's kick it off with this tough bug:

 

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Not to step on the beetle but...

Space is science right?

 

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Not to step on the beetle but...

Space is science right?

Yes, saw that yesterday or day before on the local news. So cool!

Now we can harvest gasses to plant on Mars, so maybe, just maybe, we can thicken the atmosphere as the first step in terraforming it to support humans. I know that has been discussed in NASA meetings. I don't know if will work, but this accomplishment means it's possible to try it.
 

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Yes, saw that yesterday or day before on the local news. So cool!

Now we can harvest gasses to plant on Mars, so maybe, just maybe, we can thicken the atmosphere as the first step in terraforming it to support humans. I know that has been discussed in NASA meetings. I don't know if will work, but this accomplishment means it's possible to try it.
The whole terraform Mars idea is so baffling to me. We currently live on a planet that is absolutely perfect for life. Life can't help but naturally thrive here under all kinds of conditions. So what's the obsession with a desolate wasteland like Mars? It seems like all the time and money on this, in my opinion, foolish project to terraform Mars could be spent on improving quality of life on Earth. I mean we can't even deal with our own global climate crisis as it is. Like we're gonna create an artificial self-sustaining atmosphere and climate on a planet 40 million miles away?

I feel like too often in science and tech the question asked is "can we do it" and not "should we do it".
 

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The whole terraform Mars idea is so baffling to me. We currently live on a planet that is absolutely perfect for life. Life can't help but naturally thrive here under all kinds of conditions. So what's the obsession with a desolate wasteland like Mars? It seems like all the time and money on this, in my opinion, foolish project to terraform Mars could be spent on improving quality of life on Earth. I mean we can't even deal with our own global climate crisis as it is. Like we're gonna create an artificial self-sustaining atmosphere and climate on a planet 40 million miles away?

I feel like too often in science and tech the question asked is "can we do it" and not "should we do it".
That's fair, and we certainly should be making efforts at solving earth's pollution problems. However, we also have to acknowledge the very real future that humanity is going to become too numerous for planet earth.

We're going to need places to colonize. Mars is the most viable option currently, so the question of terraforming has to be addressed since currently it couldn't sustain life. The other nearest option is Venus, but we'll need to figure out actually how to correct global warming, and on a much larger scale along with being able to remove green house gasses to be able to make Venus viable.
 

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That's fair, and we certainly should be making efforts at solving earth's pollution problems. However, we also have to acknowledge the very real future that humanity is going to become too numerous for planet earth.

We're going to need places to colonize. Mars is the most viable option currently, so the question of terraforming has to be addressed since currently it couldn't sustain life. The other nearest option is Venus, but we'll need to figure out actually how to correct global warming, and on a much larger scale along with being able to remove green house gasses to be able to make Venus viable.
Overpopulation is a largely a myth. There's plenty of room and resources for the current population and future populations for the foreseeable future. The problem with "overpopulation" isn't the population itself but with how to use the land and resources we have available. And the problem with that is mostly who controls that land and those resources, i.e. the very powerful and wealthy. The terraforming of Mars at this point really just looks like it would only be accessable to those people. It's also worth noting that the problems facing the viability of life on Earth are also far and away caused by these people.

Really how I see the prospect of terraforming Mars or other planets is basically like an Elsyium type of scenario. The rich and powerful allowing the Earth to be degraded to the point of no return and hightailing it out of here. That's the big reason why even considering doing something this far out of our reach technologically at this point, foresaking plenty of better uses for our research and technological capabilities, is a fool's endeavor.
 

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